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> On Feb 19, 2025, at 12:48 PM, Megan Ferguson <mfergu...@amsl.com> wrote:
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> This document has been updated with the responses to our cluster-wide queries 
> we have received to date.  Please review these updates carefully as we do not 
> make changes once the document is published as an RFC.
> 
> Note that we will await the following prior to moving forward in the 
> publication process:
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> -resolution of outstanding cluster-wide issues (see separate email thread)
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> Thank you.
> 
> RFC Editor/mf
> 
>> On Feb 13, 2025, at 10:36 AM, Madison Church <mchu...@staff.rfc-editor.org> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Jonathan,
>> 
>> Thank you for your reply! We have updated the document per your response. 
>> Please see the thread below for followup comments and updated files.
>> 
>>>>> 3) <!--[rfced] We had the following questions regarding Section 2.
>>>>>   Section 2 was titled "Conventions, Definitions, and Acronyms".
>>>>>   It contains the BCP 14 boilerplate and a single subsection that
>>>>>   is titled "Terminology".
>>>>> 
>>>>> a) There is no list of acronyms in this section.  Please review our
>>>>> updates to the title of this section and let us know any objections
>>>>> (of if a list of abbreviations was missing).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Original:
>>>>> Conventions, Definitions and Acronyms
>>>>> 
>>>>> Current:
>>>>> Conventions and Terminology
>>> 
>>> That’s fine.
>>> 
>>>>> b) We see several terms throughout the document that it may be useful
>>>>> to include in this section (as they are seemingly introduced in
>>>>> sections that follow).  For example:
>>>>> 
>>>>> temporally nested
>>>>> Layer Index
>>>>> temporal ID
>>>>> layer ID
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please let us know if you'd like to add any terms to the Terminology
>>>>> section.
>>>>> -->
>>> 
>>> Aren’t these all already defined in Section 2, or am I missing something?
>> 
>> 1) Thank you for pointing this out. When re-reviewing Section 2.1, it looks 
>> like the highlighted terms in question 3b are defined.
>> 
>> For example (paragraph above Section 3): 
>> "A 'layer index' is a numeric label for a specific spatial and 
>> temporal layer of a scalable stream." 
>> 
>> We have left the definitions as is in this section.
>> 
>>>>> 6) <!--[rfced] In the text below, are you referring to the title of the
>>>>>   document?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Original:
>>>>> If the payload also specifies how it is used with the Frame Marking
>>>>> RTP Header Extension [I-D.ietf-avtext-framemarking], the syntax MUST
>>>>> be defined in the same manner as the TID and LID fields in that
>>>>> header.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>> If the payload also specifies how it is used with "Video Frame Marking
>>>>> RTP Header Extension" [RFC9626], the syntax MUST be defined in the
>>>>> same manner as the TID and LID fields in that header.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Or perhaps:
>>>>> If the payload also specifies how it is used with the [Video?] Frame
>>>>> Marking RTP Header Extension described in [RFC9626], the syntax MUST
>>>>> be defined in the same manner as the TID and LID fields in that
>>>>> header.
>>>>> -->
>>> 
>>> The latter seems good, including the word “Video”.
>> 
>> 2) We have updated the sentence above to use the second option. If there are 
>> any additional changes needed to the text above (in reference to the current 
>> status of RFC 9626), please let us know and we will make those updates as 
>> well.
>> 
>>>>> 10) <!--[rfced] We had the following questions related to the
>>>>>   abbreviations and initialisms used throughout the document:
>>>>> 
>>>>> a) In the following equation, will it be clear to the reader what TO
>>>>> and TN refer to?
>>>>> 
>>>>> TID = TO and target TID = TN
>>>>> 
>>>>> If these are abbreviations, they should be expanded on first use (per
>>>>> RFC 7322).
>>> 
>>> These are nonce variables so we can talk about the specific values of CTID 
>>> and TTID sent in a hypothetical LRR message.  Is there a clearer way to 
>>> express this?
>> 
>> 3) Thank you for the clarification! Perhaps adding a note at the end of the 
>> sentence would clarify this for readers?
>> 
>> Current:
>> In this case, given current TID = TO and target TID = TN, layer refresh to 
>> TN is satisfied when a 
>> NAL unit type of 2 or 3 is seen for TID = T1, then TID = T2, all the way up 
>> to TID = TN.
>> 
>> Perhaps:
>> In this case, given current TID = TO and target TID = TN, layer refresh to 
>> TN is satisfied when a 
>> NAL unit type of 2 or 3 is seen for TID = T1, then TID = T2, all the way up 
>> to TID = TN (note that 
>> TN and TO refer to nonce variables in this instance).
>> 
>>>>> b) We see:
>>>>> 
>>>>> CLID - Current Layer ID
>>>>> 
>>>>> and also Current Layer Index (or current layer indices or layer
>>>>> indices)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please review these occurrences and let us know if they should be made
>>>>> uniform.
>>>>> 11) <!--[rfced] We had the following questions related to the terminology
>>>>>  used throughout the document.
>>>>> 
>>>>> a) Please review the way field names are treated with regard to
>>>>> capitalization and quotation and let us know if/how they should be
>>>>> made uniform.
>>>>> 
>>>>> For example, we see:
>>>>> 
>>>>> "R" field
>>>>> "RES" field
>>>>> layer index field
>>>>> LayerId field vs. layer ID field vs. LID field (see related cluster query)
>>>>> "media source" field
>>>>> "Current Temporal Layer ID (CTID)" and "Current Layer ID (CLID)" fields
>>>>> payload type field
>>>>> "SSRC of packet sender" field
>>>>> DID, QID, and TID fields
>>>>> -->
>>> 
>>> I think I’ve tended to use quotes on first reference to a field, and not 
>>> use them subsequently, but if you think that’s confusing feel free to 
>>> remove them.
>>> 
>>> I think I’ve also tended to use capitalization when referring to a protocol 
>>> element and use plain English when referring to the abstract concept 
>>> carried in that protocol element, but if you want to normalize them that's 
>>> fine.
>> 
>> 4) We have removed quotes surrounding field names upon first use for 
>> consistency. Also, please note that the following terms still need review:
>> 
>> LayerId field vs. layer ID field vs. LID field (see related cluster query)
>> Current Layer ID (CLID) vs. Current Layer Index
>> 
>> 
>> The updated files have been posted here (please refresh):
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9627.txt
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9627.pdf
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9627.html
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9627.xml
>> 
>> The updated diff files have been posted here (please refresh):
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9627-diff.html (comprehensive diff)
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9627-rfcdiff.html (side by side)
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9627-auth48diff.html (AUTH48 changes)
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9627-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by side)
>> 
>> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see:
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9627
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> RFC Editor/mc
>> 
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