Hi All,

About the use of “traditional”, I looked at the current version, and I have a 
suggestion. After reading the text with any of the suggested adjectives, none 
of them fills me with happiness. I think that’s because “brief” is not a 
defined term of art in the BGP document set, so the idea that we can qualify it 
with some adjective and have that speak unambiguously to the reader is a bit of 
a reach. That is, IMO, “traditional” is neither necessary nor sufficient for 
maximum clarity.

My proposal is to fix the problem by being clearer about our terminology in 
Section 5, as in,

OLD:
   it is typically referred to as "brief" aggregation in
   implementations.  Brief aggregation results in an AS_PATH that has

NEW:
   it is typically referred to as "brief" aggregation in
   implementations.  That terminology is adopted here: in this document,
   brief aggregation refers to what is described in this section, in contrast
   to consistent brief aggregation as described in Section 5.2.
   Brief aggregation results in an AS_PATH that has

And then you can remove “traditional” throughout, without loss of precision. 
You will already have stated explicitly what “brief” means, and have warned the 
reader that “consistent” is the adjective whose presence or absence 
distinguishes the two variants.

(Another alternative would be wherever you use “traditional brief”, replace it 
with something like “brief (as described in Section 5)”, but that ends up being 
more ponderous.)

If you had a terminology section, that would be the natural place to do this, 
but you don’t, and I don’t think we should introduce one at this late date.

Thoughts?

—John

On May 5, 2025, at 11:41 PM, Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed) 
<kotikalapudi.sri...@nist.gov> wrote:


Hi Karen,

Thank you for the help from you and all the RFC Editors.

I agree with Jeff’s comments.

About use of the word “traditional”,  I lean in the direction of what Warren 
has recommended: “I think that "traditional" is the better word here,…”

About the following :

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…..

Current:
   [Analysis] "Detailed analysis of AS_SETs in BGP updates", commit
              eb0fc22, March 2022,
              <https://github.com/ksriram25/IETF/blob/main/Detailed-
              AS_SET-analysis.txt>.
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No problem.  The change you have made is acceptable. I have added the authors 
names and contact info at the top of the file in GitHub. Please update the 
commit to ef3f4a9 in the citation.

I have looked at the whole updated document, and assuming the above change 
(commit #)  would incorporated, I approve this RFC for publication.

Sriram

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