Authors,

While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) the 
following questions, which are also in the XML file.

1) <!--[rfced] To align with the Abstract/Introduction, we made
"Virtual Ethernet Segment" plural in the document title and the
short title (which appears in the running header of the PDF). 
Please let us know of any changes.

Additionally, please consider if "Provider Backbone Bridge EVPN" 
should be included in the document title per the scope.  And for 
clarity, would it be correct for "Solutions", "Requirements", or 
other to be included?

Original:
   EVPN Virtual Ethernet Segment

Current:
   EVPN Virtual Ethernet Segments

Perhaps:
   EVPN and Provider Backbone Bridge EVPN Solutions for 
   Virtual Ethernet Segments
-->


2) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in
the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search.
-->


3) <!--[rfced] For clarity, may "on a per individual PW" be rephrased
as "on each PW"?  Alternatively, if "individual" is necessary, then 
perhaps "for each individual PW".

Original:
   For instance, if PW3 were terminated into a
   third PE, e.g.  PE3, instead of PE1, the vES would need to be defined
   on a per individual PW on each PE.

Perhaps:
   For instance, if PW3 were terminated into a
   third PE, e.g., PE3, instead of PE1, the vES would need to be defined
   on each PW on each PE.
-->


4) <!--[rfced] Section 3.2: Why is this item numbered "R3a" instead of "R2a"?
In other words, The preceding section is R1a, R1b, etc., so
should this be "R2a" instead of "R3a"?

If your answer is "R2a", then the subsequent requirements will be 
updated as well (i.e. R4a, R4b, etc., will become R3a, R3b, etc.)

Original:
   (R3a) A PE device that supports the vES function MUST support local
   switching among different vESes associated with the same service
   instance on a single physical port.
-->


5) <!--[rfced] Section 3.4: FYI, we changed "Rbc" to"R5b". 
Rationale: The preceding item is R5a, and the numbering in the 
preceding section is R4a, R4b, R4c, etc. Please let us know if
you intended otherwise.

Original:
   (Rbc) Each vES MUST be identified by its own virtual ESI (vESI).

Current:
   (R5b) Each vES MUST be identified by its own virtual ESI (vESI).
-->


6) <!--[rfced] We had trouble parsing this sentence and updated it for
clarity as shown below. Please let us know if it changes the
intended meaning.

Original:
   Since many EVCs (and their associated vESes) are aggregated via a
   single physical port (e.g., ENNI), then the failure of that physical
   port impacts many vESes and triggers equally many ES route
   withdrawals. 

Perhaps:
   Since many EVCs (and their associated vESes) are aggregated via a
   single physical port (e.g., ENNI), when there is a failure of that 
   physical port, it impacts many vESes and equally triggers many ES route
   withdrawals. 
-->


7) <!-- [rfced] We note that RFC 7623 does not contain Section
7.2.1.1. Was Section 6.2.1.1 ("PE B-MAC Address Assignment")
perhaps intended 
<https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7623#section-6.2.1.1>?

Original:
   For PBB-EVPN solution, the main change is with respect to the B-MAC
   address assignment which is performed similar to what is described in
   section 7.2.1.1 of [RFC7623] with the following refinements:
 -->


8) <!--[rfced] Is a word missing after "Single-Active" in the following
sentence? Perhaps "scenario"?

Original:
   In case of a Single-Active, when a service moves from one PE in the
   Redundancy Group to another PE because of DF re-election, the PE,
   which ends up being the elected DF for the service, MUST trigger a
   MAC address flush notification towards the associated vES if the
   multi-homing device is a bridge or the multi-homing network is an
   Ethernet bridged network.
-->


9) <!--[rfced] Please clarify "instead of NULL value". Is the intended
meaning that an I-SID is carried in the Ethernet Tag ID field
instead of in the NULL value (Perhaps A) or that the route is
modified to carry an I-SID instead of a NULL value (Perhaps B)?

Original: 
   [RFC9541] introduces B-MAC/I-SID route where existing PBB-EVPN B-MAC 
   route is modified to carry an I-SID in the "Ethernet Tag ID" field 
   instead of NULL value.

Perhaps A:
   [RFC9541] introduces a B-MAC/I-SID route where the existing PBB-EVPN B-MAC 
   route is modified to carry an I-SID in the "Ethernet Tag ID" field instead
   of in the NULL value.
or

Perhaps B:
   [RFC9541] introduces a B-MAC/I-SID route where the existing PBB-EVPN B-MAC 
   route is modified to carry an I-SID, instead of a NULL value, in the 
   "Ethernet Tag ID" field.
-->


10) <!--[rfced] Please clarify if "one for each VLAN" is the same as "one
for each I-SID"? And does "one" mean "one route"?

Original:
   However, if the failed EVC carries multiple VLANs each with its own 
   broadcast domain, then the affected PE needs to advertise multiple 
   B-MAC/I-SID routes - one for each VLAN (broadcast domain) - i.e., 
   one for each I-SID.

Perhaps:
   However, if the failed EVC carries multiple VLANs each with its own 
   broadcast domain, then the affected PE needs to advertise multiple 
   B-MAC/I-SID routes, i.e., one route for each VLAN (broadcast domain),
   meaning one route for each I-SID.
-->


11) <!--[rfced] Please clarify what "(1)" is referring to in the
text below. Is "(1)" within the same section (Section 5.3) or a
different section? Or, perhaps "one (1)" was intended?

Original:
   4.  When this message is received, the remote PE MAY detect the
       special vES mass-withdraw message by identifying the Grouping
       Ethernet A-D per ES route.  The remote PEs MAY then access the
       list created in (1) of the vESes for the specified color, and
       initiate locally MAC address invalidating procedures for each of
       the vESes in the list.
-->


12) <!-- [rfced] We found the following URL for [MEF63]:
https://www.mef.net/resources/mef-6-3-subscriber-ethernet-service-definitions/.
May we add this URL to the reference entry for easy access?

Original:
   [MEF63]    Metro Ethernet Forum, "Subscriber Ethernet Services
              Definitions", MEF Standard, MEF 6.3, November 2019.

Perhaps:
   [MEF63]    Metro Ethernet Forum, "Subscriber Ethernet Services
              Definitions", MEF Standard, MEF 6.3, November 2019,
              <https://www.mef.net/resources/mef-6-3-subscriber-
              ethernet-service-definitions>.
 -->


13) <!-- [rfced] Terminology

a) Throughout the text, the following terminology appears to be used 
inconsistently. Please review these occurrences and let us know if/how 
they may be made consistent.  

  Ethernet A-D per ES route (16) vs. 
  Ethernet A-D per ES (5)
    [Note: should "route" be added to the 5 instances that 
    do not include it? 

  MAC Mobility Extended Community vs. 
  MAC Mobility Extended community vs.
  MAC mobility Extended community
    [Note that the case used in RFCs 7432 and 7623 is 
    "MAC Mobility extended community".]

b) For consistency, we updated the document to use the form on the 
right. Please let us know of any objections.

  Core Network -> core network
  DF Election -> DF election 
  Ethernet segment -> Ethernet Segment
  Multi-Homed and Multi-homed -> multi-homed
  Redundancy Group -> redundancy group
  Service Provider -> service provider
  Single-homed -> single-homed

c) May "multi-homed" and "multi-homing" 
be changed to "multihomed" and "multihoming" per common
use in the RFC series (and in particular, in RFCs 7432, 
7623, and 8584)? Your reply to this will be applied to the
other documents in this cluster (9785 and 9786).
-->


14) <!-- [rfced] Abbreviations

a) FYI: We have added expansions for the following abbreviations
per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). Please review each
expansion in the document carefully to ensure correctness.

  - Label Distribution Protocol (LDP)
  - Media Access Control (MAC)

b) For consistency (within the RFC series and cluster 492), we updated
this document to use the forms on the right. Please let us know of 
any objections.

  All-Active Redundancy Mode (AA) -> All-Active (AA) Redundancy Mode

  Broadcast, Unknown-unicast, Multicast (BUM) ->
     Broadcast, Unknown Unicast, and Multicast (BUM) (per RFC 7432)

  External Network-to-Network Interface (ENNI) (Section 1.2) vs.
  External Network-Network Interface (Section 2) 
   -> updated to the latter for consistency.

  Provider Backbone (PBB) -> Provider Backbone Bridge (PBB) (per RFC 7623)

  Single-Active Redundancy Mode (SA) -> Single-Active (SA) Redundancy Mode

  Virtual Pseudowire Service (VPWS) ->  
     Virtual Private Wire Service (VPWS) (per RFC 8214)

c) Please let us know how we may expand the following term:

  - SH (in the title of Figure 1)

d) As recommended in the Web Portion of the Style Guide
<https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#exp_abbrev>, 
once an abbreviation is introduced, the abbreviated form 
should be used thereafter. Please consider if you would 
like to apply this style for the following term:

  - Ethernet Segment (ES) -> use "ES" thereafter
-->


15) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the online 
Style Guide <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>
and let us know if any changes are needed.  Updates of this nature typically
result in more precise language, which is helpful for readers.

Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this should 
still be reviewed as a best practice.
-->


Thank you.

RFC Editor/kc/ar


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RFC9784 (draft-ietf-bess-evpn-virtual-eth-segment-19)

Title            : EVPN Virtual Ethernet Segments
Author(s)        : A. Sajassi, P. Brissette, R. Schell, J. Drake, J. Rabadan
WG Chair(s)      : Matthew Bocci, Stephane Litkowski, Zhaohui (Jeffrey) Zhang
Area Director(s) : Jim Guichard, Ketan Talaulikar, Gunter Van de Velde

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