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> On May 15, 2025, at 1:28 PM, RFC Editor via auth48archive 
> <auth48archive@rfc-editor.org> wrote:
> 
> Authors,
> 
> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) 
> the following questions, which are also in the XML file.
> 
> 1) <!--[rfced] To align with the Abstract/Introduction, we made
> "Virtual Ethernet Segment" plural in the document title and the
> short title (which appears in the running header of the PDF). 
> Please let us know of any changes.
> 
> Additionally, please consider if "Provider Backbone Bridge EVPN" 
> should be included in the document title per the scope.  And for 
> clarity, would it be correct for "Solutions", "Requirements", or 
> other to be included?
> 
> Original:
>   EVPN Virtual Ethernet Segment
> 
> Current:
>   EVPN Virtual Ethernet Segments
> 
> Perhaps:
>   EVPN and Provider Backbone Bridge EVPN Solutions for 
>   Virtual Ethernet Segments
> -->
> 
> 
> 2) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in
> the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search.
> -->
> 
> 
> 3) <!--[rfced] For clarity, may "on a per individual PW" be rephrased
> as "on each PW"?  Alternatively, if "individual" is necessary, then 
> perhaps "for each individual PW".
> 
> Original:
>   For instance, if PW3 were terminated into a
>   third PE, e.g.  PE3, instead of PE1, the vES would need to be defined
>   on a per individual PW on each PE.
> 
> Perhaps:
>   For instance, if PW3 were terminated into a
>   third PE, e.g., PE3, instead of PE1, the vES would need to be defined
>   on each PW on each PE.
> -->
> 
> 
> 4) <!--[rfced] Section 3.2: Why is this item numbered "R3a" instead of "R2a"?
> In other words, The preceding section is R1a, R1b, etc., so
> should this be "R2a" instead of "R3a"?
> 
> If your answer is "R2a", then the subsequent requirements will be 
> updated as well (i.e. R4a, R4b, etc., will become R3a, R3b, etc.)
> 
> Original:
>   (R3a) A PE device that supports the vES function MUST support local
>   switching among different vESes associated with the same service
>   instance on a single physical port.
> -->
> 
> 
> 5) <!--[rfced] Section 3.4: FYI, we changed "Rbc" to"R5b". 
> Rationale: The preceding item is R5a, and the numbering in the 
> preceding section is R4a, R4b, R4c, etc. Please let us know if
> you intended otherwise.
> 
> Original:
>   (Rbc) Each vES MUST be identified by its own virtual ESI (vESI).
> 
> Current:
>   (R5b) Each vES MUST be identified by its own virtual ESI (vESI).
> -->
> 
> 
> 6) <!--[rfced] We had trouble parsing this sentence and updated it for
> clarity as shown below. Please let us know if it changes the
> intended meaning.
> 
> Original:
>   Since many EVCs (and their associated vESes) are aggregated via a
>   single physical port (e.g., ENNI), then the failure of that physical
>   port impacts many vESes and triggers equally many ES route
>   withdrawals. 
> 
> Perhaps:
>   Since many EVCs (and their associated vESes) are aggregated via a
>   single physical port (e.g., ENNI), when there is a failure of that 
>   physical port, it impacts many vESes and equally triggers many ES route
>   withdrawals. 
> -->
> 
> 
> 7) <!-- [rfced] We note that RFC 7623 does not contain Section
> 7.2.1.1. Was Section 6.2.1.1 ("PE B-MAC Address Assignment")
> perhaps intended 
> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7623#section-6.2.1.1>?
> 
> Original:
>   For PBB-EVPN solution, the main change is with respect to the B-MAC
>   address assignment which is performed similar to what is described in
>   section 7.2.1.1 of [RFC7623] with the following refinements:
> -->
> 
> 
> 8) <!--[rfced] Is a word missing after "Single-Active" in the following
> sentence? Perhaps "scenario"?
> 
> Original:
>   In case of a Single-Active, when a service moves from one PE in the
>   Redundancy Group to another PE because of DF re-election, the PE,
>   which ends up being the elected DF for the service, MUST trigger a
>   MAC address flush notification towards the associated vES if the
>   multi-homing device is a bridge or the multi-homing network is an
>   Ethernet bridged network.
> -->
> 
> 
> 9) <!--[rfced] Please clarify "instead of NULL value". Is the intended
> meaning that an I-SID is carried in the Ethernet Tag ID field
> instead of in the NULL value (Perhaps A) or that the route is
> modified to carry an I-SID instead of a NULL value (Perhaps B)?
> 
> Original: 
>   [RFC9541] introduces B-MAC/I-SID route where existing PBB-EVPN B-MAC 
>   route is modified to carry an I-SID in the "Ethernet Tag ID" field 
>   instead of NULL value.
> 
> Perhaps A:
>   [RFC9541] introduces a B-MAC/I-SID route where the existing PBB-EVPN B-MAC 
>   route is modified to carry an I-SID in the "Ethernet Tag ID" field instead
>   of in the NULL value.
> or
> 
> Perhaps B:
>   [RFC9541] introduces a B-MAC/I-SID route where the existing PBB-EVPN B-MAC 
>   route is modified to carry an I-SID, instead of a NULL value, in the 
>   "Ethernet Tag ID" field.
> -->
> 
> 
> 10) <!--[rfced] Please clarify if "one for each VLAN" is the same as "one
> for each I-SID"? And does "one" mean "one route"?
> 
> Original:
>   However, if the failed EVC carries multiple VLANs each with its own 
>   broadcast domain, then the affected PE needs to advertise multiple 
>   B-MAC/I-SID routes - one for each VLAN (broadcast domain) - i.e., 
>   one for each I-SID.
> 
> Perhaps:
>   However, if the failed EVC carries multiple VLANs each with its own 
>   broadcast domain, then the affected PE needs to advertise multiple 
>   B-MAC/I-SID routes, i.e., one route for each VLAN (broadcast domain),
>   meaning one route for each I-SID.
> -->
> 
> 
> 11) <!--[rfced] Please clarify what "(1)" is referring to in the
> text below. Is "(1)" within the same section (Section 5.3) or a
> different section? Or, perhaps "one (1)" was intended?
> 
> Original:
>   4.  When this message is received, the remote PE MAY detect the
>       special vES mass-withdraw message by identifying the Grouping
>       Ethernet A-D per ES route.  The remote PEs MAY then access the
>       list created in (1) of the vESes for the specified color, and
>       initiate locally MAC address invalidating procedures for each of
>       the vESes in the list.
> -->
> 
> 
> 12) <!-- [rfced] We found the following URL for [MEF63]:
> https://www.mef.net/resources/mef-6-3-subscriber-ethernet-service-definitions/.
> May we add this URL to the reference entry for easy access?
> 
> Original:
>   [MEF63]    Metro Ethernet Forum, "Subscriber Ethernet Services
>              Definitions", MEF Standard, MEF 6.3, November 2019.
> 
> Perhaps:
>   [MEF63]    Metro Ethernet Forum, "Subscriber Ethernet Services
>              Definitions", MEF Standard, MEF 6.3, November 2019,
>              <https://www.mef.net/resources/mef-6-3-subscriber-
>              ethernet-service-definitions>.
> -->
> 
> 
> 13) <!-- [rfced] Terminology
> 
> a) Throughout the text, the following terminology appears to be used 
> inconsistently. Please review these occurrences and let us know if/how 
> they may be made consistent.  
> 
>  Ethernet A-D per ES route (16) vs. 
>  Ethernet A-D per ES (5)
>    [Note: should "route" be added to the 5 instances that 
>    do not include it? 
> 
>  MAC Mobility Extended Community vs. 
>  MAC Mobility Extended community vs.
>  MAC mobility Extended community
>    [Note that the case used in RFCs 7432 and 7623 is 
>    "MAC Mobility extended community".]
> 
> b) For consistency, we updated the document to use the form on the 
> right. Please let us know of any objections.
> 
>  Core Network -> core network
>  DF Election -> DF election 
>  Ethernet segment -> Ethernet Segment
>  Multi-Homed and Multi-homed -> multi-homed
>  Redundancy Group -> redundancy group
>  Service Provider -> service provider
>  Single-homed -> single-homed
> 
> c) May "multi-homed" and "multi-homing" 
> be changed to "multihomed" and "multihoming" per common
> use in the RFC series (and in particular, in RFCs 7432, 
> 7623, and 8584)? Your reply to this will be applied to the
> other documents in this cluster (9785 and 9786).
> -->
> 
> 
> 14) <!-- [rfced] Abbreviations
> 
> a) FYI: We have added expansions for the following abbreviations
> per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). Please review each
> expansion in the document carefully to ensure correctness.
> 
>  - Label Distribution Protocol (LDP)
>  - Media Access Control (MAC)
> 
> b) For consistency (within the RFC series and cluster 492), we updated
> this document to use the forms on the right. Please let us know of 
> any objections.
> 
>  All-Active Redundancy Mode (AA) -> All-Active (AA) Redundancy Mode
> 
>  Broadcast, Unknown-unicast, Multicast (BUM) ->
>     Broadcast, Unknown Unicast, and Multicast (BUM) (per RFC 7432)
> 
>  External Network-to-Network Interface (ENNI) (Section 1.2) vs.
>  External Network-Network Interface (Section 2) 
>   -> updated to the latter for consistency.
> 
>  Provider Backbone (PBB) -> Provider Backbone Bridge (PBB) (per RFC 7623)
> 
>  Single-Active Redundancy Mode (SA) -> Single-Active (SA) Redundancy Mode
> 
>  Virtual Pseudowire Service (VPWS) ->  
>     Virtual Private Wire Service (VPWS) (per RFC 8214)
> 
> c) Please let us know how we may expand the following term:
> 
>  - SH (in the title of Figure 1)
> 
> d) As recommended in the Web Portion of the Style Guide
> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#exp_abbrev>, 
> once an abbreviation is introduced, the abbreviated form 
> should be used thereafter. Please consider if you would 
> like to apply this style for the following term:
> 
>  - Ethernet Segment (ES) -> use "ES" thereafter
> -->
> 
> 
> 15) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the online 
> Style Guide <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>
> and let us know if any changes are needed.  Updates of this nature typically
> result in more precise language, which is helpful for readers.
> 
> Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this should 
> still be reviewed as a best practice.
> -->
> 
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> RFC Editor/kc/ar
> 
> 
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> --------------------------------------
> RFC9784 (draft-ietf-bess-evpn-virtual-eth-segment-19)
> 
> Title            : EVPN Virtual Ethernet Segments
> Author(s)        : A. Sajassi, P. Brissette, R. Schell, J. Drake, J. Rabadan
> WG Chair(s)      : Matthew Bocci, Stephane Litkowski, Zhaohui (Jeffrey) Zhang
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