Hi Rebecca,
thank you for your help in improving this document. Please find my notes
below tagged GIM>>.

Regards,
Greg

On Wed, May 14, 2025 at 10:09 AM Rebecca VanRheenen <
rvanrhee...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote:

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> 1) <!-- [rfced] *AD: We see that consensus is set to "Unknown"
> for this document in the datatracker. See
> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-mna-usecases/>.
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> consensus Status of This Memo. Please confirm that this is correct.
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>
> 2) <!-- [rfced] The document title includes two instances of "MPLS". Are
> both needed?
>
> Original:
>  Use Cases for MPLS Network Action Indicators and MPLS Ancillary Data
>
> Perhaps:
>  Use Cases for MPLS Network Action Indicators and Ancillary Data
>
GIM>> I don't strongly prefer either version, and I can live with any
decision other authors will support.

> -->
>
>
> 3) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in
> the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. -->
>
GIM>> Perhaps
Special Purpose Label
MPLS data plane

>
>
> 4) <!-- [rfced] We see that "MPLS Ancillary Data" appears in Section 1.1
> ("Terminology").  We see instances of "ancillary data" (no "MPLS") in the
> document, but we only see "MPLS Ancillary Data" used in the document
> title. Are any updates needed?
>
GIM>> Perhaps we can note the equivalence between "MPLS Ancillary Data" and
"ancillary data" as is done for terms related to a network slice. Might the
following update be acceptable (using the proposed text below):
OLD TEXT:
   MPLS Ancillary Data:
NEW TEXT:
  MPLS Ancillary Data (also referred to in this document as "ancillary
data"):

>
> Also, note that we slightly updated the definition list as follows.
>
> Original:
>   RFC 9543 Network Slice
>      is interpreted as defined in [RFC9543].  Furthermore, this
>      document uses "network slice" interchangeably as a shorter version
>      of the RFC 9543 Network Slice term.
>
>   The MPLS Ancillary Data is classified as:
>      *  residing within the MPLS label stack and referred to as In-
>         Stack Data, and
>
>      *  residing after the Bottom of Stack (BoS) and referred to as
>         Post-Stack Data.
>
> Updated:
>   RFC 9543 Network Slice:
>      Interpreted as defined in [RFC9543].  This document
>      uses "network slice" interchangeably as a shorter version of the
>      term "RFC 9543 Network Slice".
>
>   MPLS Ancillary Data:
>      Data that can be classified as:
>
>      *  residing within the MPLS label stack (referred to as "in-stack
>         data"), and
>
>      *  residing after the Bottom of Stack (BoS) (referred to as "post-
>         stack data").
>
GIM>> I agree with the proposed update.

> -->
>
>
> 5) <!-- [rfced] Would you like for the abbreviations listed in Section 1.2
> ("Abbreviations") to be alphabetized? Or do you prefer the current order?
>
GIM>> Yes, please alphabetize it; thank you.

> -->
>
>
> 6) <!-- [rfced] Please review "Policy as a policy construct". May we
> update as
> follows (i.e., remove "policy")?
>
> Original:
>   Section 5 of
>   [I-D.ietf-teas-ns-ip-mpls] defines a Network Resource Partition (NRP)
>   Policy as a policy construct that enables the instantiation of
>   mechanisms to support one or more network slice services.
>
> Perhaps:
>   Section 5 of [NS-IP-MPLS]
>   defines a Network Resource Partition (NRP) Policy as a
>   construct that enables the instantiation of mechanisms to support one
>   or more network slice services.

GIM>> I prefer the current form because "NRP Policy" is a term, and "policy
construct" emphasizes that it is a rule that governs the instantiation of a
network slice.

>
> -->
>
>
> 7) <!-- [rfced] We believe that "label stack elements" here should be
> updated to
> "label stack entries", which is used earlier in this document and in RFC
> 8595.
> Please confirm. Also note that "label stack element" has not been
> used in the RFC Series.
>
> Original:
>   [RFC8595] describes how Service Function Chaining can be realized in
>   an MPLS network by emulating the Network Service Header (NSH)
>   [RFC8300] using only MPLS label stack elements.
>
GIM>> You are correct. Please update as s/elements/entries/

> -->
>
>
> 8) <!-- [rfced] Please confirm that "FUNC::ARG" is correct here. We ask
> because
> we see "LOC:FUNCT:ARG" in RFC 8986.
>
> Original:
>   MNA can be used to encode
>   the FUNC::ARGs to support the functional equivalent of FUNC::ARG in
>   SRv6 as described in [RFC8986].
>
GIM>> I believe that FUNC::ARG is correct for SR-MPLS, as it does not
require the locator part of SRv6.

> -->
>
>
> 9) <!-- [rfced] Would you like to update "bottom of the label stack" here
> to
> "BoS" or leave as is?
>
> Original:
>   In this case, BIER has defined 0b0101 as the
>   value for the first nibble in the data that immediately appears after
>   the bottom of the label stack for any BIER-encapsulated packet over
>   MPLS.
>
> Perhaps:
>   In this case, BIER has defined 0b0101 as the
>   value for the first nibble in the data that immediately appears after
>   the BoS for any BIER-encapsulated packet over
>   MPLS.
>
GIM>> I agree to the proposed update, thank you.

> -->
>
>
> 10) <!-- [rfced] Please confirm that the citation is correct here. We ask
> because
> we do not see the specific wording "non-protocol specifying document" in
> RFC-to-be 9789 (ietf-mpls-mna-fwk).
>
> Also, to improve readability, we upddated "non-protocol specifying
> documents"
> as follows. Let us know any concerns.
>
> Original:
>   Section 7 of "MPLS Network Action (MNA) Framework",
>   [I-D.ietf-mpls-mna-fwk] outlines security considerations for non-
>   protocol specifying documents.
>
> Updated:
>   Section 7 of the MNA framework [RFC9789] outlines security
>   considerations for documents that do not specify protocols.
>
GIM>> AFAICS, the full title of RFC 9789-to-be is MPLS Network Action (MNA)
Framework. Perhaps we can omit the full title altogether, making this
sentence as follows:
NEW TEXT:
  Section 7 of [RFC9789] outlines security
  considerations for documents that do not specify protocols.


> -->
>
>
> 11) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We lowercased "post-stack data" and "in-stack data"
> per
> usage in RFC-to-be 9789 (ietf-mpls-mna-fwk).
>
GIM>> Thank you for your thorough review of both drafts, ensuring
consistency of terminology.

> -->
>
>
> 12) <!-- [rfced] Abbreviations
>
> a) This document uses "Ingress to Edge" as the expansion for I2E, but
> RFC-to-be 9789 (ietf-mpls-mna-fwk) and other documents in the RFC Series
> use "Ingress to Egress". If no objections, we will update this document
> accordingly.
>
> Current:
> Ingress to Edge
>
> Perhaps:
> Ingress to Egress
>
GIM>> Thank you for catching this. Agreed

>
>
> b) FYI - We have added expansions for the following abbreviations
> per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). Please review each
> expansion in the document carefully to ensure correctness.
>
> Deterministic Networking (DetNet)
> Segment Routing over IPv6 (SRv6)
> Segment Routing over MPLS (SR-MPLS)
> Service Level Objectives (SLOs)
>
GIM>> All are correct; thank you

> -->
>
>
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>
> Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this should
> still be reviewed as a best practice.
>
GIM>> I don't find any red flags.

> -->
>
>
> Thank you.
>
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> RFC9791 (draft-ietf-mpls-mna-usecases-15)
>
> Title            : Use Cases for MPLS Network Action Indicators and MPLS
> Ancillary Data
> Author(s)        : T. Saad, K. Makhijani, H. Song, G. Mirsky
> WG Chair(s)      : Tarek Saad, Tony Li, Adrian Farrel
>
> Area Director(s) : Jim Guichard, Ketan Talaulikar, Gunter Van de Velde
>
> > On May 14, 2025, at 9:25 AM, Greg Mirsky <gregimir...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dear RFC Editor,
> > for some reason I didn't receive the note from the RFC Editor. If there
> are any questions to the authors, please let me know and I will work on
> addressing them.
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> > Regards,
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> > On Wed, May 14, 2025 at 4:03 AM James Guichard <
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