Hi Senthil,

Thank you for your reply.  We have noted your approval on the AUTH48 status 
page (https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9785).

We now await approvals from Ali and Wen prior to moving forward with 
publication.

Best regards,
RFC Editor/kc

> On Jun 2, 2025, at 12:20 PM, Senthil Sathappan (Nokia) 
> <senthil.sathap...@nokia.com> wrote:
> 
> Karen,
> I approve the publication. Thank you very much for your work on this.
> Senthil.
> 
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> Dear Jorge and John,
> 
> Thank you for your replies. We have noted your approvals on the AUTH48 status 
> page (https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9785). We now await approvals from 
> Ali, Senthil, and Wen prior to moving forward with the publication process.
> 
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> 
> 
>> On Jun 2, 2025, at 7:35 AM, John Drake <je_drake=40yahoo....@dmarc.ietf.org> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Karen,
>> 
>> I approve publication.  Very nice work.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> John
> 
> 
>> On Jun 2, 2025, at 5:02 AM, Jorge Rabadan (Nokia) <jorge.raba...@nokia.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Karen,
>> 
>> I’m good with your points 1) and 2) below.
>> 
>> It looks good to me now. I approve the document for publication.
>> 
>> Thank you very much for your work on this.
>> Jorge
>> 
>> 
>> From: Karen Moore <kmo...@staff.rfc-editor.org>
>> Date: Friday, May 30, 2025 at 4:12 PM
>> To: Jorge Rabadan (Nokia) <jorge.raba...@nokia.com>, 
>> je_dr...@yahoo.com<je_dr...@yahoo.com>, Senthil Sathappan (Nokia) 
>> <senthil.sathap...@nokia.com>, saja...@cisco.com <saja...@cisco.com>, 
>> w...@juniper.net <w...@juniper.net>
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>> <bess-...@ietf.org>, bess-cha...@ietf.org <bess-cha...@ietf.org>, 
>> slitkows.i...@gmail.com <slitkows.i...@gmail.com>, andrew-i...@liquid.tech 
>> <andrew-i...@liquid.tech>, 
>> auth48archive@rfc-editor.org<auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>
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>> Hi Jorge,
>> 
>> Thank you for your review and reply. We have updated our files accordingly. 
>> Please review the updates and let us know if any further changes are needed. 
>> Note that we have a few clarifications below.
>> 
>> 1) Please review the term updates carefully throughout the document and let 
>> us know if any further changes are needed. To summarize, the document now 
>> reflects the following forms:
>> 
>> DF algorithm*
>> DF election
>> DF election algorithm
>> default DF algorithm
>> default DF election algorithm
>> "Don't Preempt” Capability
>> preference value
>> Highest-Preference and/or Lowest-Preference Algorithm(s)
>> 
>> * We thought that instances of “DF Algorithm” should be “DF algorithm” for 
>> consistency; however, if that is not correct, please let us know and we will 
>> revert the changes.
>> 
>> 2) In Section 4.3, we updated the following sentence so that it will parse 
>> with the introductory sentence:
>> 
>> Suggested:
>>  PE3 will then:
>>     *  Does not trigger any Designated Forwarder changes for Ethernet Tag-1.
>> 
>> Current:
>>  PE3 will then:
>>    *  Not trigger any Designated Forwarder changes for Ethernet Tag-1.
>> 
>> 
>> — FILES —
>> The updated XML file is here:
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9785.xml
>> 
>> The updated output files are here:
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9785.txt
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9785.pdf
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9785.html
>> 
>> These diff files show all changes made during AUTH48:
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9785-auth48diff.html
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9785-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by side)
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> Please contact us with any further updates or with your approval of the 
>> document in its current form.  We will await approvals from each author 
>> prior to moving forward in the publication process.
>> 
>> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see:
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9785
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> RFC Editor/kc
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 30, 2025, at 5:12 AM, Jorge Rabadan (Nokia) via auth48archive 
>>> <auth48archive@rfc-editor.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear editor,
>>> 
>>> Please find my comments in-line below with [jorge].
>>> 
>>> Thank you!
>>> Jorge
>>> 
>>> From: rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org <rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org>
>>> Date: Thursday, May 15, 2025 at 1:29 PM
>>> To: Jorge Rabadan (Nokia) <jorge.raba...@nokia.com>, Senthil Sathappan 
>>> (Nokia) <senthil.sathap...@nokia.com>, w...@juniper.net <w...@juniper.net>, 
>>> je_dr...@yahoo.com<je_dr...@yahoo.com>, saja...@cisco.com 
>>> <saja...@cisco.com>
>>> Cc: rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org <rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org>, 
>>> bess-...@ietf.org <bess-...@ietf.org>, bess-cha...@ietf.org 
>>> <bess-cha...@ietf.org>, slitkows.i...@gmail.com <slitkows.i...@gmail.com>, 
>>> andrew-i...@liquid.tech <andrew-i...@liquid.tech>, 
>>> auth48archive@rfc-editor.org<auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>
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>>> your review
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>>> 
>>> Authors,
>>> 
>>> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) 
>>> the following questions, which are also in the XML file.
>>> 
>>> 1) <!--[rfced] Please note that the title has been updated as follows.
>>> The abbreviation has been expanded per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322
>>> ("RFC Style Guide"). Please review.
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>>   Preference-based EVPN DF Election
>>> 
>>> Current:
>>>   Preference-Based EVPN Designated Forwarder (DF) Election
>>> -->
>>> 
>>> [jorge] the change is good, thanks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in
>>> the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. -->
>>> 
>>> [jorge] Highest-Preference, Lowest-Preference, Non-Revertive, Don’t 
>>> Preempt, Preemption
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 3) <!-- [rfced] We note that the term "Default Designated Forwarder
>>> Algorithm" does not appear in RFC 7432 (it does use "Designated
>>> Forwarder"). Is an update needed to the term, reference, or
>>> placement of the citation?
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>>   While the Default Designated Forwarder Algorithm [RFC7432] or the
>>>   Highest Random Weight algorithm (HRW) [RFC8584] provide an efficient
>>>   and automated way of selecting the Designated Forwarder across
>>>   different Ethernet Tags in the Ethernet Segment, there are some
>>>   use-cases where a more user-controlled method is required.
>>> -->
>>> 
>>> [jorge] The term “default designated forwarder algorithm" is introduced in 
>>> RFC8584 as the algorithm used in RFC7432, hence the reference. But it is 
>>> probably more correct to use RFC8584 for both. That is:
>>> 
>>> OLD:
>>>   While the Default Designated Forwarder Algorithm [RFC7432] or the
>>>   Highest Random Weight algorithm (HRW) [RFC8584] provide an efficient
>>>   and automated way of selecting the Designated Forwarder across
>>>   different Ethernet Tags in the Ethernet Segment, there are some
>>>   use-cases where a more user-controlled method is required.
>>> 
>>> NEW:
>>>   While the Default Designated Forwarder Algorithm or the
>>>   Highest Random Weight algorithm (HRW) [RFC8584] provide an efficient
>>>   and automated way of selecting the Designated Forwarder across
>>>   different Ethernet Tags in the Ethernet Segment, there are some
>>>   use-cases where a more user-controlled method is required.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 4) <!--[rfced] DP vs. D
>>> 
>>> a) In Section 2, we note that the description for "DP" includes "(me)";
>>> however, "(me)" is not used elsewhere in the document or in the
>>> "DF Election Capabilities" registry
>>> <https://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-extended-communities>.
>>> Should it be removed?
>>> 
>>> Current:
>>>   DP: Refers to the "Don't Preempt" (me) capability in the
>>>   Designated Forwarder Election extended community.
>>> 
>>> Perhaps:
>>>   DP: Refers to the "Don't Preempt" capability in the
>>>   DF Election Extended Community.
>>> 
>>> [jorge] I agree with the suggestion.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> b) Section 2 says "DP" refers to the "Don't Preempt" capability, but
>>> Section 3 says "DP" refers to the "D bit" or "'Don't Preempt' bit".
>>> There are also 11 instances of "DP bit" and "DP capability". Are the
>>> 'Don't Preempt' bit and "Don't Preempt" capability the same or
>>> different? Please let us know if/how we can make these consistent
>>> within the text and IANA registry.
>>> 
>>> Current (in the running text):
>>> 
>>>  "Don't Preempt" capability vs.
>>>  'Don't Preempt' bit vs.
>>>  DP capability vs.
>>>  DP bit vs.
>>>  D bit
>>> 
>>> In the DF Election Capabilities Registry:
>>> 
>>>   Bit   Name                             Reference
>>>   - -   - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -    - - - - - -
>>>   0     D (Don't Preempt) Capability     RFC XXXX
>>> -->
>>> 
>>> [jorge] We can use “Don’t Preempt Capability” everywhere, except in section 
>>> 3. Section 3 describes what “bit” of the extended community indicates the 
>>> Don’t Preempt Capability when set. We can make this change in section 3 to 
>>> clarify:
>>> 
>>> OLD:
>>> 
>>> Bit 0 (corresponds to Bit 24 of the DF Election Extended Community, and it 
>>> is defined by this document): The D bit, or 'Don't Preempt' bit ("DP" 
>>> hereafter), determines if the PE advertising the Ethernet Segment route 
>>> requests the remote PEs in the Ethernet Segment to not preempt it as the 
>>> Designated Forwarder.
>>> 
>>> NEW:
>>> 
>>> Bit 0 (corresponds to Bit 24 of the DF Election Extended Community, and it 
>>> is defined by this document): The D bit, or 'Don't Preempt' Capability, 
>>> determines if the PE advertising the Ethernet Segment route requests the 
>>> remote PEs in the Ethernet Segment to not preempt it as the Designated 
>>> Forwarder.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 5) <!--[rfced] Should "route type 1" be "Route Type (1 octet)"
>>> per RFC 7432 or as "Route Type 1" per the description of
>>> "Ethernet A-D per EVI route" in RFC 8584 (which updates RFC 7432)?
>>> 
>>> Also, may we move the citation to the end of the sentence as we note that
>>> it refers to both "Route Type 1" and "Auto-Discovery".
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>>   Ethernet A-D per EVI route - refers to [RFC7432] route type 1 or
>>>   Auto-Discovery per EVPN Instance route.
>>> 
>>> Perhaps:
>>>   Ethernet A-D per EVI route: Refers to Route Type 1 or
>>>      Auto-Discovery per the EVPN Instance route [RFC7432].
>>> -->
>>> 
>>> [jorge] counter proposal (remove “the”):
>>> 
>>> OLD:
>>>   Ethernet A-D per EVI route - refers to [RFC7432] route type 1 or
>>>   Auto-Discovery per EVPN Instance route.
>>> 
>>> NEW:
>>>   Ethernet A-D per EVI route: Refers to Route Type 1 or
>>>      Auto-Discovery per EVPN Instance route [RFC7432].
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 6) <!--[rfced] Is it correct that the default DF algorithm is the same
>>> as the "modulus-based algorithm as per [RFC7432]"? If so,
>>> even though this text currently matches RFC 8584, would it be
>>> more clear to use  "i.e.," or another phrase to indicate that
>>> these are equivalent (rather than alternatives)?
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>>   Alg 0 - Default Designated Forwarder Election algorithm, or
>>>            modulus-based algorithm as per [RFC7432].
>>> 
>>> Perhaps:
>>>   Alg 0 - Default Designated Forwarder Election algorithm, i.e.,
>>>           the modulus-based algorithm as per [RFC7432].
>>> 
>>> For comparison, from RFC 8584:
>>>      -  Type 0: Default DF election algorithm, or modulus-based
>>>         algorithm as defined in [RFC7432].
>>> -->
>>> 
>>> [jorge] I agree with the suggestion.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 7) <!--[rfced] Should Figure 2 be updated to show the T bit as
>>> defined in RFC-to-be 9722 (draft-ietf-bess-evpn-fast-df-recovery-12),
>>> which also update RFC 8584 and is currently in AUTH48 state? If so,
>>> should any text be added to mention that document?
>>> 
>>> Current:
>>>                       1 1 1 1 1 1
>>>   0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5
>>>  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>>>  |D|A|                           |
>>>  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>>> 
>>> Perhaps:
>>>                       1 1 1 1 1 1
>>>   0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5
>>>  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>>>  |D|A| |T|                       |
>>>  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>>> -->
>>> 
>>> [jorge] I prefer not to add “T”. Bit A is added here because the capability 
>>> that represents is used later in the text. It is not necessary to show here 
>>> other capabilities that exist in other specs.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 8) <!--[rfced] FYI: We removed "described by this document" in the
>>> following entry (in Section 3) to avoid redundancy as the
>>> description points to Section 4.1 of this document. Please
>>> let us know of any objections.
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>>   *  Designated Forwarder (DF) Preference (described in this document):
>>>      defines a 2-octet value that indicates the PE preference to become
>>>      the Designated Forwarder in the Ethernet Segment, as described in
>>>      Section 4.1.
>>> 
>>> Current:
>>>   *  Designated Forwarder (DF) Preference: Defines a 2-octet value that
>>>      indicates the PE preference to become the Designated Forwarder in
>>>      the Ethernet Segment, as described in Section 4.1.
>>> -->
>>> 
>>> [jorge] I agree with the suggestion.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 9) <!--[rfced] Is "DF Algorithms" intended to be singular possessive
>>> (option A) or plural (option B)? Please let us know how we may
>>> update this text for clarity.
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>>   The Designated Forwarder Preference field is specific
>>>   to DF Algorithms Highest-Preference and Lowest-Preference,
>>>   and this document does not define any meaning for other
>>>   algorithms.
>>> 
>>> Perhaps A:
>>>   The Designated Forwarder Preference field is specific
>>>   to a DF Algorithm's Highest-Preference and Lowest-Preference,
>>>   and this document does not define any meaning for other
>>>   algorithms.
>>> 
>>> Perhaps B:
>>>   The Designated Forwarder Preference field is specific
>>>   to Highest-Preference and Lowest-Preference DF Algorithms,
>>>   and this document does not define any meaning for other
>>>   algorithms.
>>> -->
>>> 
>>> [jorge] use “Perhaps B”, please
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 10) <!--[rfced] Section 4.1: For readability, may spaces be added after
>>> commas in the parameter lists (as shown in Option A)? If so, other
>>> instances will be updated accordingly; one sample is below.
>>> 
>>> In addition, would you like to format the examples as lists (Option B)?
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>>   a.  vES1 and vES2 are now configurable with three optional parameters
>>>       that are signaled in the Designated Forwarder Election extended
>>>       community.  These parameters are the Preference, Preemption
>>>       option (or "Don't Preempt" option) and DF Algorithm.  We will
>>>       represent these parameters as (Pref,DP,Alg).  For instance, vES1
>>>       (Pref,DP,Alg) is configured as (500,0,Highest-Preference) in PE1,
>>>       and (255,0,Highest-Preference) in PE2. vES2 is configured as
>>>       (100,0,Highest-Preference), (200,0,Highest-Preference) and
>>>       (300,0,Highest-Preference) in PE1, PE2 and PE3 respectively.
>>> 
>>> Option A:
>>>   a.  vES1 and vES2 are now configurable with three optional parameters
>>>       that are signaled in the DF Election Extended Community.  These
>>>       parameters are the Preference, Preemption (or "Don't Preempt")
>>>       option, and DF Algorithm. We will represent these parameters as
>>>       (Pref, DP, Alg).  For instance, vES1 (Pref, DP, Alg) is
>>>       configured as (500, 0, Highest-Preference) in PE1, and (255, 0,
>>>       Highest-Preference) in PE2. vES2 is configured as (100, 0,
>>>       Highest-Preference), (200, 0, Highest-Preference) and (300, 0,
>>>       Highest-Preference) in PE1, PE2, and PE3, respectively.
>>> 
>>> Option B:
>>>   a.  vES1 and vES2 are now configurable with three optional parameters
>>>       that are signaled in the DF Election Extended Community.  These
>>>       parameters are the Preference, Preemption (or "Don't Preempt")
>>>       option, and DF Algorithm.  We will represent these parameters as
>>>       (Pref, DP, Alg).  For instance, vES1 (Pref, DP, Alg) is
>>>       configured as:
>>> 
>>>          (500, 0, Highest-Preference) in PE1,
>>>          (255, 0, Highest-Preference) in PE2.
>>> 
>>>       vES2 is configured as
>>> 
>>>          (100, 0, Highest-Preference) in PE1,
>>>          (200, 0, Highest-Preference) in PE2, and
>>>          (300, 0, Highest-Preference) in PE3.
>>> 
>>> [jorge] I like Option B, please use it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sample from Section 4.3 if the space is added:
>>> 
>>>   PE3 will select PE2 as the
>>>   Highest-PE over PE1, because when comparing (Pref, DP,
>>>   PE-IP), (200, 1, PE2-IP) wins over (100, 1, PE1-IP).  PE3 will
>>>   select PE1 as the Lowest-PE over PE2, because
>>>   (100, 1, PE1-IP) wins over (200, 1, PE2-IP).
>>> -->
>>> 
>>> [jorge] I agree with the suggestion
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 11) <!--[rfced] FYI: We removed the citation from the title of Section 4.2
>>> as RFC 7432 is cited within the first sentence.
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>>   4.2.  Use of the Highest-Preference or Lowest-Preference algorithm
>>>         in [RFC7432] Ethernet Segments
>>> 
>>> Current:
>>>   4.2.  Use of the Highest-Preference or Lowest-Preference Algorithm
>>>         in Ethernet Segments
>>> -->
>>> 
>>> [jorge] I agree with the suggestion
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 12) <!--[rfced] FYI, we added a space after the comma
>>> after "Ethernet Tag-range" for consistency with the example
>>> in this sentence. Please let us know if you prefer otherwise.
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>>   *  In addition, assuming VLAN-based service interfaces and that the
>>>      PEs are attached to all Ethernet Tags in the range 1-4000, both
>>>      PE1 and PE2 may be configured with (Ethernet Tag-range,Lowest-
>>>      Preference), e.g., (2001-4000, Lowest-Preference).
>>> 
>>> Current:
>>>   *  In addition, assuming VLAN-based service interfaces and that the
>>>      PEs are attached to all Ethernet Tags in the range 1-4000, both
>>>      PE1 and PE2 may be configured with (Ethernet Tag-range, Lowest-
>>>      Preference), e.g., (2001-4000, Lowest-Preference).
>>> -->
>>> 
>>> [jorge] I agree with the suggestion
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 13) <!--[rfced] In Section 4.3, item (5) lists the steps PE3 will
>>> take. The first two bullet points work off of the introductory
>>> sentence; however, the 3rd and 4th bullet points do not.  To
>>> make the list parallel, may we rephrase the 3rd and 4th
>>> bullet points as shown below?
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>>  PE3 will then:
>>> 
>>>  [...]
>>> 
>>>  *  Note that, a PE will always send its DP capability set to zero
>>>     as long as the advertised Pref is the 'in-use' operational
>>>     Pref (as opposed to the 'administrative' Pref).
>>> 
>>>  *  This Ethernet Segment route update sent by PE3, with
>>>     (200,0,PE3-IP), will not cause any Designated Forwarder
>>>     switchover for any Ethernet Tag. PE2 will continue being
>>>     Designated Forwarder for Ethernet Tag-1.  This is because
>>>     the DP bit will be used as a tiebreaker in the Designated
>>>     Forwarder election.  That is, if a PE has two candidate PEs
>>>     with the same Pref, it will pick the one with DP=1.  There are
>>>     no Designated Forwarder changes for Ethernet Tag-2 either.
>>> 
>>> Perhaps:
>>>  PE3 will then:
>>> 
>>>  [...]
>>> 
>>>  *  Send its DP capability set to zero, as long as the advertised
>>>     Pref is the 'in-use' operational Pref (as opposed to the
>>>     'administrative' Pref).
>>> 
>>>  *  Continue to be the Designated Forwarder for Ethernet Tag-1.
>>>     The Ethernet Segment route update sent by PE3, with
>>>     (200,0,PE3-IP), will not cause any Designated Forwarder
>>>     switchover for any Ethernet Tag. This is because the
>>>     DP bit will be used as a tiebreaker in the Designated
>>>     Forwarder election.  That is, if a PE has two candidate PEs
>>>     with the same Pref, it will pick the one with DP=1.  There
>>>     are no Designated Forwarder changes for Ethernet Tag-2 either.
>>> -->
>>> 
>>> [jorge] the last bullet in the proposal is not correct. Suggestion:
>>> 
>>> OLD:
>>>  PE3 will then:
>>> 
>>>  [...]
>>> 
>>>  *  Note that, a PE will always send its DP capability set to zero
>>>     as long as the advertised Pref is the 'in-use' operational
>>>     Pref (as opposed to the 'administrative' Pref).
>>> 
>>>  *  This Ethernet Segment route update sent by PE3, with
>>>     (200,0,PE3-IP), will not cause any Designated Forwarder
>>>     switchover for any Ethernet Tag. PE2 will continue being
>>>     Designated Forwarder for Ethernet Tag-1.  This is because
>>>     the DP bit will be used as a tiebreaker in the Designated
>>>     Forwarder election.  That is, if a PE has two candidate PEs
>>>     with the same Pref, it will pick the one with DP=1.  There are
>>>     no Designated Forwarder changes for Ethernet Tag-2 either.
>>> 
>>> NEW:
>>>  PE3 will then:
>>> 
>>>  [...]
>>> 
>>>  *  Send its DP capability set to zero, as long as the advertised
>>>     Pref is the 'in-use' operational Pref (as opposed to the
>>>     'administrative' Pref).
>>> 
>>>  *  Does not trigger any Designated Forwarder changes for Ethernet Tag-1.
>>>     The Ethernet Segment route update sent by PE3, with
>>>     (200,0,PE3-IP), will not cause any Designated Forwarder
>>>     switchover for any Ethernet Tag. This is because the
>>>     DP bit will be used as a tiebreaker in the Designated
>>>     Forwarder election.  That is, if a PE has two candidate PEs
>>>     with the same Pref, it will pick the one with DP=1.  There
>>>     are no Designated Forwarder changes for Ethernet Tag-2 either.
>>> -->
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 14) <!--[rfced] FYI, this sentence was updated for readability (rephrased
>>> the opening clause; changed "and impact" to "to impact"). Please
>>> review whether it conveys the intended meaning.
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>>   With Highest-Preference or Lowest-Preference as DF Algorithm,
>>>   an attacker may change the configuration of the Preference
>>>   value on a PE and Ethernet Segment, and impact the traffic
>>>   going through that PE and Ethernet Segment.
>>> 
>>> Current:
>>>   When the DF Algorithm is Highest-Preference or Lowest-Preference,
>>>   an attacker may change the configuration of the Preference
>>>   value on a PE and Ethernet Segment to impact the traffic
>>>   going through that PE and Ethernet Segment.
>>> -->
>>> 
>>> [jorge] I agree with the suggestion
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 15) <!-- [rfced] Would you like the references to be alphabetized
>>> or left in their current order?
>>> -->
>>> 
>>> [jorge] alphabetized, please
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 16) <!-- [rfced] Terminology
>>> 
>>> a) May we update the following terms to the form on the right for
>>> consistency within the document and Cluster 492 (C492)?
>>> 
>>>  Designated Forwarder Election vs.
>>>   Designated Forwarder election -> DF election
>>> 
>>>  Designated Forwarder Election Algorithm vs.
>>>   Designated Forwarder Election algorithm vs.
>>>   Designated Forwarder election algorithm -> DF election algorithm
>>> 
>>>  Default Designated Forwarder Election Algorithm vs.
>>>   Default Designated Forwarder Election algorithm vs.
>>>   default Designated Forwarder election algorithm
>>>   -> default DF election algorithm (per RFC 8584)
>>> 
>>> [jorge] I’m ok with the suggestion
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> b) Throughout the text, the following terminology appears to be used
>>> inconsistently. Please review these occurrences and let us know if/how they
>>> may be made consistent.
>>> 
>>> Default DF Algorithm vs. Default Algorithm vs. Default algorithm
>>>   [Note: Should "Default" perhaps be lowercase? Should "DF" be
>>>   removed or added for consistency (also see (c) below)?
>>>   Perhaps: "default DF algorithm" (per RFC 8584)
>>> 
>>> [jorge] I’m ok with “default DF algorithm”
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Preference value vs. preference value
>>> 
>>> [jorge] “preference value” is ok
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> c) We note "Highest-Preference and/or Lowest-Preference DF Algorithm(s)" 
>>> (with "DF")
>>> vs. "Highest-Preference and/or Lowest-Preference Algorithm(s)" (without 
>>> "DF").
>>> 
>>> Per the "DF Alg" registry 
>>> <https://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-extended-communities>,
>>> these terms appear without "DF". Should "DF" be removed from these
>>> terms in the document or should "DF" be added to the terms in this
>>> document and in the registry for consistency?
>>> 
>>> Per the "DF Alg" registry:
>>>   2   Highest-Preference Algorithm
>>>   3   Lowest-Preference Algorithm
>>> 
>>> A few examples that vary in the text (see the document for more examples):
>>> 
>>>   The DP capability is supported by the Highest-Preference or
>>>   Lowest-Preference DF Algorithms.
>>> 
>>>   The procedures of the "Don't Preempt" capability for the
>>>   Highest-Preference and Lowest-Preference DF Algorithms are
>>>   described in Section 4.1.
>>> 
>>>   The Highest-Preference and Lowest-Preference Algorithms MAY be used
>>>   along with the AC-DF capability.
>>> 
>>>   The document also describes how a local policy can override the
>>>   Highest-Preference or Lowest-Preference Algorithms for a range of
>>>   Ethernet Tags in the Ethernet Segment.
>>> 
>>> [jorge] I agree with the suggestion of removing “DF” from those terms and 
>>> be consistent with the DF Alg registry
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> d) We made the following changes for consistency (the document now uses the
>>> form on the right). Please let us know if any further changes are needed.
>>> 
>>>  Acknowledgments -> Acknowledgements (for consistency with C492)
>>>  all-active -> All-Active (for consistency with C492)
>>>  Broadcast Domain -> broadcast domain (for consistency with C492)
>>> 
>>>  Designated Forwarder Election Extended Community and
>>>    Designated Forwarder Election extended community ->
>>>    DF Election Extended Community (per IANA, RFC 8584, and C492)
>>> 
>>>  Ethernet segment -> Ethernet Segment
>>>  Highest-Preference algorithm -> Highest-Preference Algorithm (per IANA)
>>>  Lowest-Preference algorithm -> Lowest-Preference Algorithm (per IANA)
>>>  single-active -> Single-Active (for consistency with C492)
>>> -->
>>> 
>>> [jorge] I agree with the suggestions
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 17) <!-- [rfced] Abbreviations
>>> 
>>> a) FYI - We have added expansions for the following abbreviations
>>> per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). Please review each
>>> expansion in the document carefully to ensure correctness.
>>> 
>>> - Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM)
>>> - VLAN ID (VID)
>>> 
>>> [jorge] I agree with the suggestion
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> b) For consistency (within the RFC series and C492), we
>>> updated the document to use the forms on the right.
>>> Please let us know if you prefer otherwise.
>>> 
>>>  AC-Influenced Designated Forwarder Election (AC-DF) ->
>>>      AC-Influenced DF (AC-DF) election (per RFC 8584)
>>> 
>>>  ENNI: Ethernet Network to Network Interface ->
>>>  ENNI: External Network-Network Interface
>>>     (to match usage in RFC-to-be 9784)
>>> -->
>>> 
>>> [jorge] I agree with the suggestions
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 18) <!--[rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the online
>>> Style Guide 
>>> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>
>>> and let us know if any changes are needed.  Updates of this nature typically
>>> result in more precise language, which is helpful for readers.
>>> 
>>> Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this should
>>> still be reviewed as a best practice.
>>> -->
>>> 
>>> [jorge] I checked and I didn’t see any term that we should replace
>>> 
>>> Thank you!
>>> 
>>> Jorge
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> RFC Editor/kc/ar
>>> 
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>>> RFC9785 (draft-ietf-bess-evpn-pref-df-13)
>>> 
>>> Title            : Preference-Based EVPN Designated Forwarder (DF) Election
>>> Author(s)        : J. Rabadan, Ed., S. Sathappan, W. Lin, J. Drake, A. 
>>> Sajassi
>>> WG Chair(s)      : Matthew Bocci, Stephane Litkowski, Zhaohui (Jeffrey) 
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