On Mon, Jun 2, 2025 at 3:43 PM Megan Ferguson <
mfergu...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote:

> Hi Marco and *Paul,
>
> [*Paul, we ask that you confirm the following updates, especially the
> changes to Figure 4 (see Marco’s mail below or the diff between the last
> version and this).]
>

Confirmed and approved. The values were translated properly.

Paul


>
> Thank you for sending along these updates.  We have incorporated these
> changes and reposted the files. Please review carefully as we do not make
> changes once the document is published as an RFC.
>
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>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9770.pdf
>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9770.html
>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9770.xml
>
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>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9770-diff.html (comprehensive diff)
>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9770-auth48diff.html (AUTH48
> changes only)
>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9770-lastdiff.html (last to
> current version only)
>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9770-lastrfcdiff.html (last to
> current side by side)
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
> Thank you.
>
> RFC Editor/mf
>
> > On May 30, 2025, at 10:22 AM, Marco Tiloca <marco.til...@ri.se> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Megan,
> >
> > Thank you, the figures look good to me in all the document formats.
> >
> > I have now proofread the whole document and have a final set of
> comments, please see below. They finish with the mark "=== END OF COMMENTS
> ===".
> >
> > Best,
> > /Marco
> >
> >
> > ### Section 4.1.2
> >
> > OLD:
> > like it is defined in Section 3.2.2 of [RFC9202].
> >
> > NEW:
> > like it is defined in Section 3.3.2 of [RFC9202].
> >
> > Rationale: It is actually in Section 3.3.2 of RFC 9202 that the use of
> the mentioned fields is defined.
> >
> >
> > ### Section 4.2.2
> >
> > In the example in Figure 4, the following change is needed in the entry
> of the third from last parameter.
> >
> > OLD:
> > "pop",
> >
> > NEW:
> > "PoP",
> >
> > Rationale: "PoP" is consistent with the capitalization used for the
> registry entry at
> https://www.iana.org/assignments/ace/ace.xhtml#oauth-access-token-type-cbor-mappings
> >
> >
> > ### Section 4.2.2
> >
> > In the example in Figure 4, the following change is needed in the entry
> of the last parameter.
> >
> > OLD:
> > "1"
> >
> > NEW:
> > "coap_dtls"
> >
> > Rationale: Per the second paragraph of Section 5.8.4.3 of RFC 9200,
> JSON-based interactions are supposed to use the textual representation of
> the profile identifier, i.e., here "coap_dtls", see
> https://www.iana.org/assignments/ace/ace.xhtml#ace-profiles
> >
> >
> > ### Section 6
> >
> > OLD:
> > support its "Cursor" extension
> >
> > NEW:
> > support the related "Cursor" extension
> >
> >
> > ### Section 9.2.1
> >
> > In the section title
> >
> > OLD:
> > Empty Collection
> >
> > NEW:
> > Empty Update Collection
> >
> >
> > ### Section 11
> >
> > OLD:
> > Once registered at the AS, the administrator or registered device
> >
> > NEW:
> > Once registered at the AS, an administrator or a registered device
> >
> >
> > ### Section 14.7
> >
> > OLD:
> > Section 4.3.2 states that
> >
> > NEW:
> > Section 4.3.2 specifies that
> >
> >
> > ### Section 14.7
> >
> > OLD:
> > is a CWT since
> >
> > NEW:
> > is a CWT, since
> >
> >
> > ### Appendix C
> >
> > OLD:
> > Registration is assumed
> >
> > NEW:
> > The RS registration is assumed
> >
> >
> > ### Appendix C
> >
> > OLD:
> > with a registered device (see Section 8);
> >
> > NEW:
> > with a registered device (see Section 6.2);
> >
> > Rationale: the bullet point is about the MAX_N parameter, which is first
> introduced in Section 6.2.
> >
> >
> > "=== END OF COMMENTS ==="
> >
> >
> > On 2025-05-29 18:39, Megan Ferguson wrote:
> >> Hi Marco,
> >>
> >> Thanks for sending these along.  We have updated Figures 10-14 with the
> ascii-art you provided. Please review all figures to ensure they appear as
> you prefer.
> >>
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> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >> Thank you.
> >>
> >> RFC Editor/mf
> >>
> >>
> >>> On May 29, 2025, at 2:20 AM, Marco Tiloca <marco.til...@ri.se>
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Megan,
> >>>
> >>> Thank you; I understand the constraints, then let's have ascii-art for
> Figures 10-14 also in the HTML.
> >>>
> >>> When checking rfc9770_test.html, I can see that those figures have
> some differences in spacing and indentation if compared to what the result
> was in SVG.
> >>>
> >>> Please see attached a ZIP archive with 5 TXT files, each with the
> ascii-art of one of the Figures 10-14. Although I was using those files to
> generate the SVG images, their content is exactly what is intended to be
> shown in ascii-art.
> >>>
> >>> Would it be possible to use the content of those files to draw Figures
> 10-14 in ascii-art?
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> /Marco
> >>>
> >>> On 2025-05-28 18:47, Megan Ferguson wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Marco,
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you for your reply.  We have updated accordingly.
> >>>>
> >>>> Please see below for further comment on the SVG issue (marked with
> [rfced]):
> >>>>
> >>>> On May 24, 2025, at 9:39 AM, Marco Tiloca
> >>>>
> >>>> <marco.til...@ri.se>
> >>>>
> >>>>  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> 3)  Regarding the SVG figures being cut off at the end of the pages
> in the PDF output, this is a known issue with xml2rfc (see
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ). As the proposed workaround (to shrink the size of the SVG down so
> that it fits on one page) is not a good solution for Figures 10-14, esp.
> Fig 14 because it gets too small to be readable, we propose three possible
> options to address this issue:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> a. Split one SVG element into two (or more) SVG elements so that a
> page break appears in the PDF between the parts. (This would look odd in
> the TXT and HTML.)
> >>>>> b. Change the content of the SVG (and the equivalent ascii-art) to
> be at high level with step numbers (move details of steps out of each
> figure).
> >>>>> c. Remove SVG, i.e., have ascii-art only for those 5 diagrams  (SVG
> would remain for fig 1 which is a different kind of figure). See here for
> what this option would look like in the PDF output:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Which of the three actions would you prefer to take? Or is there
> another way you would like to address this?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> ==>MT
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for the clarifications and the good proposals.
> >>>>
> >>>> I certainly prefer to take option (c), consistent with what is shown
> in the preview file rfc9770_test.pdf
> >>>>
> >>>> I suppose and hope that this solution would be applied only to the
> PDF, i.e., SVG will remain in the HTML version :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> <==
> >>>>
> >>>> [rfced] Unfortunately, it is not currently possible for SVG to appear
> in the HTML but not in the PDF. The same ascii-art will be applied to the
> the HTML.
> >>>>
> >>>> See here:
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>> RFC Editor/mf
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On May 24, 2025, at 9:39 AM, Marco Tiloca <marco.til...@ri.se>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hello Alanna,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you, please see my answers in line below.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> After those, I also suggest one more fix in Sections 15.4, 15.5, and
> 15.6, for consistency of capitalization within this document and with the
> IANA registries.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best,
> >>>>> /Marco
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 2025-05-23 18:25, Alanna Paloma wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> [You don't often get email from apal...@staff.rfc-editor.org.
> Learn why this is important at
> https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  ]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Marco,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thank you for your reply. We have updated the files below with your
> follow-up comments.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We have additional comments/questions regarding the SVG figures.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 1) We have made some adjustments to the SVG in Figure 14 so that
> the “:” in Observe: 64, Observe: 89, and Observe: 92 are now aligned.
> Please review all the instances of “:” within “Payload: {…}” to ensure that
> are now all aligned as you prefer.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> ==>MT
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks a lot! I have checked again Figures 10-14 and the alignment
> of ":" looks good to me.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> <==
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> 2) We are unable to see this overlap issue in the PDF that you
> mentioned:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>   - In the occurrences of "Content-Format: 262", "262" overlaps
> with "Content-Format”.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Please provide us a screenshot of the overlap so that we may be
> better able to understand the issue.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> ==>MT
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It actually looks fine now; I can't see that overlapping anymore.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> <==
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> 3)  Regarding the SVG figures being cut off at the end of the pages
> in the PDF output, this is a known issue with xml2rfc (see
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fietf-tools%2Fxml2rfc%2Fissues%2F860&data=05%7C02%7Cmarco.tiloca%40ri.se%7C13e1042a972540f6394d08dd9ecf5985%7C5a9809cf0bcb413a838a09ecc40cc9e8%7C0%7C0%7C638841336776722450%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C40000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Ut9dLOeJ%2BjocMWReTPvRsNlzi%2Fkt2v8NbcL2OXfnXqA%3D&reserved=0
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ). As the proposed workaround (to shrink the size of the SVG down
> so that it fits on one page) is not a good solution for Figures 10-14, esp.
> Fig 14 because it gets too small to be readable, we propose three possible
> options to address this issue:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> a. Split one SVG element into two (or more) SVG elements so that a
> page break appears in the PDF between the parts. (This would look odd in
> the TXT and HTML.)
> >>>>>> b. Change the content of the SVG (and the equivalent ascii-art) to
> be at high level with step numbers (move details of steps out of each
> figure).
> >>>>>> c. Remove SVG, i.e., have ascii-art only for those 5 diagrams  (SVG
> would remain for fig 1 which is a different kind of figure). See here for
> what this option would look like in the PDF output:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Which of the three actions would you prefer to take? Or is there
> another way you would like to address this?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> ==>MT
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for the clarifications and the good proposals.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I certainly prefer to take option (c), consistent with what is shown
> in the preview file rfc9770_test.pdf
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I suppose and hope that this solution would be applied only to the
> PDF, i.e., SVG will remain in the HTML version :-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> <==
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ==>MT
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ### Section 15.4
> >>>>>
> >>>>> OLD:
> >>>>> "Standards Action with Expert Review
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "
> >>>>>
> >>>>> NEW:
> >>>>> "
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Standards Action With Expert Review"
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (2 instances)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ### Section 15.5
> >>>>>
> >>>>> OLD:
> >>>>> "Standards Action with Expert Review
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "
> >>>>>
> >>>>> NEW:
> >>>>> "
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Standards Action With Expert Review"
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (2 instances)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ### Section 15.6
> >>>>>
> >>>>> OLD:
> >>>>> "Standards Action with Expert Review
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "
> >>>>>
> >>>>> NEW:
> >>>>> "
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Standards Action With Expert Review"
> >>>>>
> >>>>> <==
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >>>>>> The files have been posted here (please refresh):
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  (last to current side by side)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thank you,
> >>>>>> RFC Editor/ap
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On May 18, 2025, at 2:31 AM, Marco Tiloca <marco.tiloca=
> 40ri...@dmarc.ietf.org>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hello Megan,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thank you; I have checked the latest edited version. Please see
> follow-up comments below. The last one is about the figures.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> My comments finish with the mark "=== END OF COMMENTS ===".
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Best,
> >>>>>>> /Marco
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ### Section 6.3
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> OLD:
> >>>>>>> 'diff': if included, it indicates that the AS should perform a
> diff query ...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> NEW:
> >>>>>>> 'diff': if included, it asks the AS to perform a diff query ...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Rationale: "should" can be misleading; performing a diff query is
> really what the AS is supposed to do if supporting diff queries. The
> formulation "asks the AS to ..." is consistent with what is used in other
> sections of the document.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ### Section 6.3
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> OLD:
> >>>>>>> 'cursor': if included, it indicates the should perform a diff
> query ...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> NEW:
> >>>>>>> 'cursor': if included, it asks the AS to perform a diff query ...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Rationale: "AS" is missing in the old text. "should" can be
> misleading; performing a diff query is really what the AS is supposed to do
> if supporting diff queries. The formulation "asks the AS to ..." is
> consistent with what is used in other sections of the document.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ### Section 8
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> OLD
> >>>>>>> to perfrom
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> NEW
> >>>>>>> to perform
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ### Appendix C.5
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> OLD:
> >>>>>>> to the AS, to perform a diff query of the TRL.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> NEW:
> >>>>>>> to the AS, asking the AS to perform a diff query of the TRL.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ### Authors' Addresses
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> OLD:
> >>>>>>> SE-SE-164 40 Kista
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> NEW:
> >>>>>>> SE-164 40 Kista
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ### Authors' Addresses
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> OLD:
> >>>>>>> SE-16440 Kista
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> NEW:
> >>>>>>> SE-164 40 Kista
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ### Figures
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * In Figure 14, there is indeed a misalignment for the ":"
> characters under the payloads for Observe: 64, Observe: 89, and Observe:
> 92. As you correctly imagined, the intention is to have the ":" characters
> aligned there too, and they are aligned in the sources that I used (more on
> that further below).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>   I am not sure how that plays a role, but the misalignment seems
> due to the fact that those entries are the only ones where the array used
> as value of the parameter full_set includes two elements, both in the same
> line. I am not sure how to fix this.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>   In addition to that, Figure 14 had a display error to fix
> anyway, see the right side of the right-to-left arrow for the message with
> Observe: 64. I have now produced an updated SVG for Figure 14 where that is
> fixed, together with a more consistent indentation of the lines for the
> final message.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>   Please find attached a ZIP archive including Figures 10-14, with
> only Figure 14 updated with the fixes mentioned above. Together with the
> SVG files, the archive includes also the TXT files that I used as sources

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