Hi Alanna,

The .txt file looks fine, but the second diff does not look correct (I did not 
check the first diff file - I am not used to the format).

I approve the changes.

Thanks.
Jeffrey


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Hi Jeffrey,

We have reverted these changes back to "Encapsulation sub-TLV”.

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> On Jun 6, 2025, at 12:14 PM, Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang <zzh...@juniper.net> 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Alanna,
>
> I see that in section 4 and 5, "MPLS" was added before "Encapsulation 
> sub-TLV". That should not be done - the existing wording applies to both MPLS 
> and non-MPLS Encapsulation sub-TLV. If necessary, you can say "MPLS or 
> non-MPLS Encapsulation sub-TLV".
>
> Thanks.
> Jeffrey
>
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>> On May 30, 2025, at 11:08 AM, Alanna Paloma <apal...@staff.rfc-editor.org> 
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>>> On May 29, 2025, at 7:26 PM, Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang 
>>> <zzhang=40juniper....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
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>>> Please see zzh> below.
>>>
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>>> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) 
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>>> 1) <!--[rfced] Please note that the title of the document has been updated 
>>> as follows.
>>> Abbreviations have been expanded per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style 
>>> Guide").
>>> Please review.
>>>
>>> Original:
>>> BGP Extensions for BIER
>>>
>>> Current:
>>> BGP Extensions for Bit Index Explicit Replication (BIER)
>>> -->
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>>> Zzh> Sure.
>>>
>>> Abstract:
>>> This document describes BGP extensions for advertising the BIER
>>> information and methods for calculating BIER states based on the
>>> advertisements.
>>>
>>> Introduction:
>>> This document describes BGP extensions for advertising the
>>> BIER-specific  information and the methods for calculating BIER
>>> forwarding states  with this information.
>>> -->
>>>
>>>
>>> 4) <!--[rfced] FYI - We moved the Requirements Language paragraph to the 
>>> Terminology section per the RFC Style Guide; see Section 4 of RFC 7322.
>>> -->
>>>
>>> Zzh> Sure.
>>>
>>> 5) <!--[rfced] FYI - We note a mix of "one-octet" vs. "1-octet" and "two 
>>> octets" vs. "2 octets". We updated the document to use the numeral form for 
>>> consistency.
>>> -->
>>>
>>> Zzh> Thanks.
>>>
>>> 6) <!--[rfced] Should a citation be added for the quoted text below? Or may 
>>> we remove the quotation marks?
>>>
>>> Zzh> Please remove the quotation marks.
>>>
>>> Original:
>>> If a BIER attribute is
>>> received from the peer, it MUST be treated exactly as if it were an
>>> unrecognized non-transitive attribute.  That is, "it MUST be quietly
>>> ignored and not passed along to other BGP peers".
>>> -->
>>>
>>>
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>>> comments will be deleted prior to publication.
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>>>
>>> Zzh> Confirmed.
>>>
>>>
>>> 8) <!--[rfced] Acronyms
>>>
>>> a) Both the expansion and the acronym for the following terms are used 
>>> throughout the document. After the first expansions, would you like to use 
>>> only the acronyms for consistency and per the guidance from the "Web 
>>> Portion of the Style Guide"
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>>>  >?
>>>
>>> BFR Neighbor (BFR-NBR)
>>> Set Identifier (SI)
>>>
>>> Zzh> Yes, please.
>>>
>>> b) Per RFC 8279, may we update the following acronym expansions to the 
>>> latter form listed for consistency?
>>>
>>> BFER   = BIER Forwarding Egress Router > Bit-Forwarding Egress Router
>>> BFR    = BIER Forwarding Router > Bit-Forwarding Router
>>> BIFT   = BIER Forwarding Table > Bit Index Forwarding Table
>>> BFR-id = BIER Forwarding Router Identifier, BIER Forwarding Router
>>>          identifier > BFR Identifier
>>>
>>> zzh> Ah, yes. Thank you.
>>>
>>> c) FYI - We have added an expansion for the following abbreviation per 
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>>>
>>> External BGP (EBGP)
>>> -->
>>>
>>> Zzh> Yes.
>>>
>>>
>>> 9) <!-- [rfced] Terminology
>>>
>>> a) Throughout the text, the following terminology appears to be used 
>>> inconsistently. May we update to the latter form listed for consistency?
>>>
>>> BIER Attribute > BIER attribute
>>>
>>> BIER Path Attribute > BIER path attribute
>>>
>>> MPLS encapsulation sub-TLV, MPLS encapsulation Sub-TLV, MPLS
>>> Encapsulation  Sub-TLV, Encapsulation sub-TLV > MPLS Encapsulation
>>> sub-TLV (per
>>> IANA)
>>>
>>> non-MPLS encapsulation sub-TLV, non-MPLS encapsulation Sub-TLV >
>>> non-MPLS Encapsulation sub-TLV (per IANA)
>>>
>>> Nexthop sub-TLV > BIER Nexthop sub-TLV (per IANA)
>>>
>>> Zzh> Yes. Thanks!
>>>
>>> b) The following terminology appears to be used inconsistently throughout 
>>> the text. Please review and let us know if/how they may be made consistent.
>>>
>>> Nexthop vs. nexthop
>>> [Note that RFCs 4271, 7606, 8279, and 8296 use "next hop" (for
>>> general use).]
>>>
>>> Zzh> There are many "BIER Nexthop sub-TLV". I'd like to keep the capital 
>>> there. The figure for the encoding also shows "Nexthop" and that matches 
>>> other fields like "Length". The text related to that sub-TLV uses capital, 
>>> and I think that is reasonable.
>>> Zzh> The "nexthop" (lower case) in the following three places can be 
>>> changed to "next hop":
>>>
>>> ...  If the BIER Nexthop sub-TLV is
>>> not included, the BIER prefix will be used by receiving BFRs as the
>>> BIER nexthop when calculating BIFT.
>>>
>>> ---------------
>>>
>>> When BFR2 receives the route, it calculates its BIFT entries.
>>> Because the route from BFER1 does not include a BIER Nexthop, BFR2
>>> uses BFRer1's BFR-prefix as the nexthop.
>>>
>>> -----------------
>>>
>>> When BFR1 receives the routes, it calculates the BIFT entries, using
>>> BFR2's address encoded in the BIER Nexthop sub-TLV as the nexthop.
>>> Because BFR2 is not directly connected, a tunnel must be used.
>>>
>>> Zzh> There are a few places where "Nexthop sub-TLV" is used w/o the 
>>> preceding "BIER". Those should be replaced with "BIER Nexthop sub-TLV".
>>> Zzh> In the "6.  Example of BIER Nexthop Usage and Handling", please add 
>>> sub-TLV after Nexthop.
>>>
>>> Sub-domain vs. sub-domain
>>> -->
>>>
>>> Zzh> Please use "sub-domain" except in the text related to the figure about 
>>> the encoding.
>>> Zzh> For example, "sub-domain" should be used in the following paragraph:
>>>
>>> When creating a BIER attribute, a BFR MUST include one BIER TLV for
>>> every Sub-domain that the prefix belongs to.  The attribute type
>>> code for the BIER Attribute is TBD.  The value field of the BIER
>>> Attribute contains one or more BIER TLV shown as follows:
>>>
>>> zzh> While "Sub-domain" can be used in the following places:
>>>
>>>    0                   1                   2                   3
>>>    0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
>>>    
>>> +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+-
>>>    |           Type = 1            |            Length             |
>>>    
>>> +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+-
>>>    |  Sub-domain   |            BFR-ID             |   Reserved    |
>>>    
>>> +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+-
>>>    +AH4                                                               +AH4
>>>    |                           Sub-TLVs                            |
>>>    
>>> +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+-..........................
>>>
>>>    Type: 1.
>>>
>>>    Length: Two octets encoding the length in octets of the Value
>>>    part.
>>>
>>>    Sub-domain [RFC8279]: ...
>>>
>>> Zzh> Thanks!
>>> Zzh> Jeffrey
>>>
>>>
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