Hi Alice, 

Sorry, I missed the question. 


> On Jul 15, 2025, at 3:40 PM, Alice Russo <aru...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote:
> 
> Acee,
> 
> Sorry if I have missed your reply to this question:
>> In Section 6.5.1, should "BGP-LS-LINK NLRI" be "BGP-LS-SPF Link NLRI" or 
>> otherwise?

Yes - this should be “BGP-LS-SPF Link NLRI”. 

Thanks,
Acee

> 
> Thank you.
> RFC Editor/ar
> 
>> On Jul 15, 2025, at 12:38 PM, Acee Lindem <acee.i...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Alice, 
>> 
>> I approve this version of the document. 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Acee
>> 
>>> On Jul 15, 2025, at 2:58 PM, Alice Russo <aru...@staff.rfc-editor.org> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Acee,
>>> 
>>> Thank you for your reply. The revised files are here (please refresh):
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9815.html
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9815.txt
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9815.pdf
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9815.xml
>>> 
>>> This diff file shows all changes from the approved I-D:
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9815-diff.html
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9815-rfcdiff.html (side by side)
>>> 
>>> This diff file shows the changes made during AUTH48 thus far:
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9815-auth48diff.html
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9815-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by side)
>>> 
>>> This diff file shows only the changes since the last posted version:
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9815-lastrfcdiff.html
>>> 
>>> We will wait to hear from you again and from your coauthors
>>> before continuing the publication process. This page shows 
>>> the AUTH48 status of your document:
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9815
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> RFC Editor/ar
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 13, 2025, at 10:00 AM, Acee Lindem <acee.i...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> H Alice, 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for your work on this document. I'm very happy with it. I do have a 
>>>> few cosmetic changes below for consistency. These include:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Get rid of the unique term and acronym Link State NLRI Database (LSNDB) 
>>>> as this is not used in RFC 9552 or anywhere else. Simply use LSDB. 
>>>> 2. Consistently point to the error handling in section 7.1. 
>>>> 
>>>> Refer to the attached RFC diff 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Acee
>>>> <rfc9815.orig.diff.html>
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 11, 2025, at 5:37 PM, Alice Russo <aru...@staff.rfc-editor.org> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Acee,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you for your reply; the files have been updated accordingly. Please 
>>>>> refresh the same URLs as below 
>>>>> (https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9815-lastrfcdiff.html shows only 
>>>>> the most recent changes). Remaining question: 
>>>>> 
>>>>> In Section 6.5.1, should "BGP-LS-LINK NLRI" be "BGP-LS-SPF Link NLRI" or 
>>>>> otherwise?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Other notes:
>>>>> 
>>>>> * FYI, the short title (which appears in the running header of the PDF) 
>>>>> has been updated as well. It is similar to that of 9816. Please let us 
>>>>> know if you prefer otherwise.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 9815  
>>>>> Original: BGP Link-State SPF Routing
>>>>> Curent:   BGP-LS SPF Routing
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 9816  
>>>>> Original: BGP-SPF Applicability
>>>>> Current:  BGP-LS SPF Applicability 
>>>>> 
>>>>> * FYI, the title of Section 5.1 has been updated to "BGP-LS-SPF SAFI" 
>>>>> (added one hyphen to match usage in the text that follows and in 9816).
>>>>> 
>>>>> RFC Editor/ar
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 11, 2025, at 1:06 PM, Acee Lindem <acee.i...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Alice,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jul 11, 2025, at 3:44 PM, Alice Russo <aru...@staff.rfc-editor.org> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Acee,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thank you for your reply and Shawn's updated contact information; 
>>>>>>> please see the follow-ups below. The revised files are here (please 
>>>>>>> refresh):
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9815.html
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9815.txt
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9815.pdf
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9815.xml
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This diff file shows all changes from the approved I-D:
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9815-diff.html
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9815-rfcdiff.html (side by side)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This diff file shows the changes made during AUTH48 thus far:
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9815-auth48diff.html
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9815-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by 
>>>>>>> side)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This diff file shows only the changes since the last posted version:
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9815-lastrfcdiff.html
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We believe this question remains:
>>>>>>>> Re: #19 (Section 6.5.1), per your reply, no change has been made. 
>>>>>>>> There is one instance of "BGP-LS-LINK NLRI" in the document --
>>>>>>>> should it be changed to "BGP-LS-SPF Link NLRI" or otherwise?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Re:
>>>>>>>>>> a) In light of that, would you like instances of 'BGP - Link State 
>>>>>>>>>> (BGP-LS)' in this document to be changed to "BGP Link State 
>>>>>>>>>> (BGP-LS)", even though it doesn't exactly match RFC 9552 or the IANA 
>>>>>>>>>> registry (https://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-ls-parameters/)?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Yes. In addition to thinking the original was a mistake, the whole 
>>>>>>>>> purpose of the document is the describe SPF Routing using BGP-LS. 
>>>>>>>>> Please the ill-positioned hyphen confused the intent.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The document has been updated as requested. Please review.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I see your point re: the hyphen. That said, to make the title of this 
>>>>>>> document match how the term is used within the document (and more 
>>>>>>> similar to how BGP-LS has been used in past RFC titles, as listed 
>>>>>>> below), what do you think of updating the title as follows? (remove 
>>>>>>> hyphen and add acronym)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- 9815
>>>>>>> Current: BGP Link-State Shortest Path First (SPF) Routing
>>>>>>> Perhaps: BGP Link State (BGP-LS) Shortest Path First (SPF) Routing
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- 9816
>>>>>>> Current: Usage and Applicability of BGP Link-State Shortest Path First 
>>>>>>> (SPF) Routing in Data Centers
>>>>>>> Perhaps: Usage and Applicability of BGP Link State (BGP-LS) Shortest 
>>>>>>> Path First (SPF) Routing in Data Centers
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I agree - this is more consistent. Let’s go with the “Perhaps” options. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Acee
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Past usage in RFC titles:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> RFC 8571: BGP - Link State (BGP-LS) Advertisement of IGP Traffic 
>>>>>>> Engineering Performance Metric Extensions
>>>>>>> RFC 9029: Updates to the Allocation Policy for the Border Gateway 
>>>>>>> Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS) Parameters Registries
>>>>>>> RFC 9085: Border Gateway Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS) Extensions for 
>>>>>>> Segment Routing
>>>>>>> RFC 9086: Border Gateway Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS) Extensions for 
>>>>>>> Segment Routing BGP Egress Peer Engineering
>>>>>>> RFC 9104: Distribution of Traffic Engineering Extended Administrative 
>>>>>>> Groups Using the Border Gateway Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS)
>>>>>>> RFC 9247: BGP - Link State (BGP-LS) Extensions for Seamless 
>>>>>>> Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (S-BFD)
>>>>>>> RFC 9294: Application-Specific Link Attributes Advertisement Using the 
>>>>>>> Border Gateway Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS)
>>>>>>> RFC9351: Border Gateway Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS) Extensions for 
>>>>>>> Flexible Algorithm Advertisement
>>>>>>> RFC 9514: Border Gateway Protocol - Link State (BGP-LS) Extensions for 
>>>>>>> Segment Routing over IPv6 (SRv6)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And one without the acronym:
>>>>>>> RFC 8814: Signaling Maximum SID Depth (MSD) Using the Border Gateway 
>>>>>>> Protocol - Link State
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We will wait to hear from you again and from your coauthors
>>>>>>> before continuing the publication process. This page shows 
>>>>>>> the AUTH48 status of your document:
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9815
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>> RFC Editor/ar
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jul 11, 2025, at 8:18 AM, Acee Lindem <acee.i...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Alice,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Please update Shawn's contact information as well: 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Shawn Zandi
>>>>>>>> Email: shaf...@shafagh.com <mailto:shaf...@shafagh.com>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Acee
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2025, at 7:14 AM, Acee Lindem <acee.i...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Alice, 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 9, 2025, at 3:19 PM, Alice Russo 
>>>>>>>>>> <aru...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Acee,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your reply. My apologies for the delay. Please see the 
>>>>>>>>>> follow-ups below. The revised files are here (please refresh):
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9815.html
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9815.txt
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9815.pdf
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9815.xml
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> This diff file shows all changes from the approved I-D:
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9815-diff.html
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9815-rfcdiff.html (side by 
>>>>>>>>>> side)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> This diff file shows the changes made during AUTH48 thus far:
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9815-auth48diff.html
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9815-auth48rfcdiff.html (side 
>>>>>>>>>> by side)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Re: #19 (Section 6.5.1), per your reply, no change has been made. 
>>>>>>>>>> There is one instance of "BGP-LS-LINK NLRI" in the document --
>>>>>>>>>> should it be changed to "BGP-LS-SPF Link NLRI" or otherwise?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Re: #28 (Abbreviations, specifically BGP-LS)
>>>>>>>>>>>> c) We updated the following expansions to reflect the form on the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>>>>> for consistency with the RFC Series:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> BGP Link-State (BGP-LS) -> BGP - Link State (BGP-LS) (per RFC 9552)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> This looks strange but we can go with the RFC 9552 expansion.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> In RFC-to-be 9816, we note your decision to use "BGP Link State 
>>>>>>>>>> (BGP-LS)" in the abstract and introduction. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> a) In light of that, would you like instances of 'BGP - Link State 
>>>>>>>>>> (BGP-LS)' in this document to be changed to "BGP Link State 
>>>>>>>>>> (BGP-LS)", even though it doesn't exactly match RFC 9552 or the IANA 
>>>>>>>>>> registry (https://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-ls-parameters/)?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Yes. In addition to thinking the original was a mistake, the whole 
>>>>>>>>> purpose of the document is the describe SPF Routing using BGP-LS. 
>>>>>>>>> Please the ill-positioned hyphen confused the intent. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> b) Is it correct that you want the RFC title to remain as is?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Original:                                                            
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>> BGP Link-State Shortest Path First (SPF) Routing
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Acee
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> We will wait to hear from you again and from your coauthors
>>>>>>>>>> before continuing the publication process. This page shows 
>>>>>>>>>> the AUTH48 status of your document:
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9815
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/ar
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 

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