Hello RPC Team!

We feel that no further edits are needed.



1) As there may have been multiple updates made to the document during Last 
Call,
please review the current version of the document:

* Is the text in the Abstract is still accurate?
* Are the References, Authors' Addresses, Contributors, and Acknowledgments
sections current?

[Author’s Response] Abstract looks good. Author’s addresses look ok to me. 
About the references: I notice that up until the most recent version (-14) we 
only had Informative references, which made sense to me for an Informational 
document, but we have split it into Normative and Informative. I’m not sure 
which of the authors made that change, but I would personally appreciate the 
RPC’s input on whether that’s the right thing to do for an Informational doc.


2) Please share any style information that could help us with editing your
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* Is your document's format or its terminology based on another document?
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* Is there a pattern of capitalization or formatting of terms? (e.g., field 
names
should have initial capitalization; parameter names should be in double quotes;
<tt/> should be used for token names; etc.)

[Author’s Response] This document is Informational. Its primary purpose is to 
demystify the terminology around Post-Quantum Cryptography, and to provide the 
IETF’s stance on some of the more controversial points. That said, it reads a 
bit like a survey paper, and it has an extensive references list that will use 
the same terms, but often in conflicting ways, which is sortof the reason this 
document exists. To that extent, I think the RPC has some freedom to adjust 
terms, capitalization, etc, since this document is establishing how the IETF 
should use these terms and concepts.

[Author’s Response] In terms of writing style, these reviews by Hilarie Orman 
and Mališa Vučinić, I think, give a fair critique that the document feels 
“jumpy”, like it was written by multiple authors at multiple times (which it 
was!), it sometimes uses terms before defining them, and the scope and audience 
are not clear. We would greatly accept help from a fresh pair of eyes to clean 
this up!
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-ietf-pquip-pqc-engineers-12-secdir-lc-orman-2025-06-09/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-ietf-pquip-pqc-engineers-13-iotdir-telechat-vucinic-2025-07-23/



3) Is there any text that should be handled extra cautiously? For example, are
there any sections that were contentious when the document was drafted?

[Authors Response] I mean, yes, but that’s sortof the nature of this beast: 
we’re trying to cut through a load of conflicting opinions and conflicting 
usages of the same terminology. I think that changes for clarity will be fine, 
but if you shift the meaning or nuance of the terminology, then the authors 
should review that carefully.


4) Is there anything else that the RPC should be aware of while editing this
document?

[Authors Response] No.

5) This document uses one or more of the following text styles.
Are these elements used consistently?

* fixed width font (<tt/> or `)
* italics (<em/> or *)
* bold (<strong/> or **)

[Author’s Response] Hmm. I don’t know. On a quick skim of the rendered HTML, I 
don’t see any formatting that’s particularly important.

6) This document contains SVG. The RPC cannot update SVG diagrams, so please
ensure that:

* the SVG figures match the ASCII art used in the text output as closely as
possible, and
* the figures fit on the pages of the PDF output.

In the rendered HTML, the ASCII Art, Figures 1 - 5, look good. I’m not sure how 
to check the PDF?


7) This document is part of Cluster 549.

* To help the reader understand the content of the cluster, is there a
document in the cluster that should be read first? Next? If so, please provide
the order and we will provide RFC numbers for the documents accordingly.
If order is not important, please let us know.
* Is there any text that has been repeated within the cluster document that
should be edited in the same way? For instance, parallel introductory text or
Security Considerations.

[Author’s Response] This document does not really have much to do with 
draft-ietf-lamps-dilithium-certificates or draft-ietf-lamps-cms-ml-dsa, except 
that they are all PQC-related, which maybe helps the RPC to edit similar 
subject matter at the same time?


8) Would you like to participate in the RPC Pilot Test for editing in 
kramdown-rfc?
If so, please let us know and provide a self-contained kramdown-rfc file. For 
more
information about this experiment, see:
https://www.rfc-editor.org/rpc/wiki/doku.php?id=pilot_test_kramdown_rfc

[Author’s Response] Yes please!
The markdown source is here, which, as far as I know, is self-contained (ie no 
file includes or special scripts needed.)
https://github.com/tireddy2/pqc-for-engineers/blob/main/draft-ietf-pquip-pqc-engineers.md




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Mike Ounsworth



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1) As there may have been multiple updates made to the document during Last 
Call,
please review the current version of the document:

* Is the text in the Abstract is still accurate?
* Are the References, Authors' Addresses, Contributors, and Acknowledgments
sections current?


2) Please share any style information that could help us with editing your
document. For example:

* Is your document's format or its terminology based on another document?
If so, please provide a pointer to that document (e.g., this document's
terminology should match DNS terminology in RFC 9499).
* Is there a pattern of capitalization or formatting of terms? (e.g., field 
names
should have initial capitalization; parameter names should be in double quotes;
<tt/> should be used for token names; etc.)


3) Is there any text that should be handled extra cautiously? For example, are
there any sections that were contentious when the document was drafted?


4) Is there anything else that the RPC should be aware of while editing this
document?


5) This document uses one or more of the following text styles.
Are these elements used consistently?

* fixed width font (<tt/> or `)
* italics (<em/> or *)
* bold (<strong/> or **)


6) This document contains SVG. The RPC cannot update SVG diagrams, so please
ensure that:

* the SVG figures match the ASCII art used in the text output as closely as
possible, and
* the figures fit on the pages of the PDF output.


7) This document is part of Cluster 549.

* To help the reader understand the content of the cluster, is there a
document in the cluster that should be read first? Next? If so, please provide
the order and we will provide RFC numbers for the documents accordingly.
If order is not important, please let us know.
* Is there any text that has been repeated within the cluster document that
should be edited in the same way? For instance, parallel introductory text or
Security Considerations.


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