Hi  Kaelin  &  Alanna,

Thanks for your help with this document.
Please check inline below for responses.

Thanks,
Changwang (on behalf of co-authors)



发件人: [email protected] <[email protected]>
发送时间: 2025年9月16日 5:57
收件人: [email protected]; [email protected]; 
[email protected]; [email protected]; linchangwang (RD) 
<[email protected]>
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主题: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9860 <draft-ietf-pim-mofrr-tilfa-14> for your review


Authors,

While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) the 
following questions, which are also in the source file.

1) <!-- [rfced] Would you like the references to be alphabetized or left in 
their current order? -->

   Changwang > I would like it alphabetized.


2) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in the 
title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. -->

  Changwang > PIM、MoFRR、LFA、TI-LFA、SR-MPLS、SRv6、RPF Vector、Join attribute

3) <!--[rfced] For clarity, should "the Join" be updated to "the Join packet"?

Original:
   If the nodes do not understand
   the RPF Vector attribute in the PIM Join packet, then it must discard
   the RPF Vector attribute because failing to remove the RPF Vectors
   could cause upstream nodes to send the Join back toward these nodes
   causing loops.

Perhaps:
   If the nodes do not understand
   the RPF Vector Attribute in the PIM Join packet, then they must discard
   the RPF Vector Attribute because failing to remove the RPF Vectors
   could cause upstream nodes to send the Join packet back toward these nodes
   causing loops.
-->
    Changwang > Ack


4) <!-- [rfced] To avoid using an RFC as an adjective, may we update the 
instances of "[RFC7431] MoFRR" in the text below as follows?

Original:
   However, the [RFC7431] MoFRR mechanism, which selects the secondary
   multicast next-hop based solely on the loop-free alternate fast
   reroute defined in [RFC7431], has limitations in certain multicast
   deployment scenarios (see Section 2).
   ...
   Consequently, the [RFC7431] MoFRR functionality in PIM is applicable
   only in network topologies where LFA is feasible.
   ...
   The limitations of the [RFC7431] MoFRR applicability can be
   illustrated using the example network depicted in Figure 1.
   ...
   In this scenario, the [RFC7431] MoFRR operates effectively.
   ...
   In this case, the [RFC7431] MoFRR cannot calculate a secondary UMH.
   Similarly, for multicast source S3 and receiver R, the [RFC7431] MoFRR
   mechanism is ineffective.
   ...
   For instance, in the network illustrated in Figure 1, the secondary
   path for the PIM Join packet towards multicast source S2 cannot be
   computed by [RFC7431] MoFRR, as previously described.

Perhaps:
   However, the MoFRR mechanism [RFC7431], which selects the secondary...
   ...
   Consequently, the MoFRR functionality [RFC7431] in PIM is applicable...
   ...
   The limitations of the MoFRR applicability [RFC7431] can be illustrated...
   ...
   In this scenario, MoFRR [RFC7431] operates effectively.
   ...
   In this case, MoFRR [RFC7431] cannot calculate a secondary UMH.
   Similarly, for multicast source S3 and receiver R, the MoFRR
   mechanism [RFC7431] is ineffective.
   ...
   For instance, in the network illustrated in Figure 1, the secondary
   path for the PIM Join packet towards multicast source S2 cannot be
   computed by MoFRR [RFC7431], as previously described.
-->
   Changwang > Ack

5) <!-- [rfced] We note that the following terminology appears to be used 
inconsistently throughout the document. Please review these occurrences and let 
us know if/how they may be made consistent.

 Node SID vs. NodeSID
 Segment List vs. segment list
-->
Changwang > Use  "Node SID"  and  " segment list ".


6) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We have added expansions for abbreviations upon first use 
per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). Please review each expansion 
in the document carefully to ensure correctness.

 Reverse Path Forwarding (RPF)
 Remote LFA (RLFA)
 PIM - Sparse Mode (PIM-SM)
-->
  Changwang > ACK


7) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the online 
Style Guide <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>
and let us know if any changes are needed.  Updates of this nature typically 
result in more precise language, which is helpful for readers.

a) For example, please consider whether "native" should be updated in the text
below:

   This mechanism is applicable to PIM networks, including cases where PIM
   operates natively over IP in Segment Routing (SR) networks.

-->
Changwang> This mechanism is applicable to PIM networks, including cases where 
PIM
   operates directly over IP in Segment Routing (SR) networks.


b) In addition, please consider whether "tradition" should be updated for 
clarity.
While the NIST website
<https://web.archive.org/web/20250214092458/https://www.nist.gov/nist-research-library/nist-technical-series-publications-author-instructions#table1>
indicates that this term is potentially biased, it is also ambiguous.
"Tradition" is a subjective term, as it is not the same for everyone:

   However, the traditional LFA does not function properly for the secondary
   path because the shortest path to R2 from R5 (or from R4) still traverses
   the R6-R2 link.
-->

   Changwang >  However, the conventional LFA does not function properly for 
the secondary
   path because the shortest path to R2 from R5 (or from R4) still traverses
   the R6-R2 link.


Thank you.

Kaelin Foody and Alanna Paloma
RFC Production Center


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RFC9860 (draft-ietf-pim-mofrr-tilfa-14)

Title            : Multicast-only Fast Reroute Based on Topology Independent 
Loop-free Alternate (TI-LFA) Fast Reroute
Author(s)        : Y. Liu, M. McBride, Z. Zhang, J. Xie, C. Lin
WG Chair(s)      : Stig Venaas, Mike McBride

Area Director(s) : Jim Guichard, Ketan Talaulikar, Gunter Van de Velde


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