Hello Alice, thank you very much! I have reviewed the changes; this looks great. Many thanks for all your support!
With this, I approve as well. Kind regards --- Alex -----Original Message----- From: Alice Russo <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2025 8:07 AM To: Cedric Westphal <[email protected]>; Alexander Clemm <[email protected]> Cc: Jérôme François <[email protected]>; Laurent Ciavaglia (Nokia) <[email protected]>; Alexander Clemm <[email protected]>; [email protected]; Jeff Tantsura <[email protected]>; Marie-Paule Odini <[email protected]>; IRSG <[email protected]>; auth48archive <[email protected]>; RFC Editor <[email protected]> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9845 <draft-irtf-nmrg-green-ps-06> for your review Cedric, Alex, Thank you for your replies. We have updated the document as requested, with two changes to the text provided for Section 1.1: removed extraneous parenthesis in 'atmosphere)'; changed 'but by also reducing' to 'but also by reducing'. This diff file shows only the changes since the last posted version: https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845-lastrfcdiff.html The revised files are here (please refresh): https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845.html https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845.txt https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845.pdf https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845.xml This diff file shows all changes from the approved I-D: https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845-diff.html https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845-rfcdiff.html (side by side) This diff file shows the changes made during AUTH48 thus far: https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845-auth48diff.html https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by side) Cedric wrote: > I approve as well! Your approval has been recorded. We will wait to hear from Alex again and from Jeff, Marie-Paule, and Jérôme before continuing the publication process. This page shows the AUTH48 status of your document: https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9845 Thank you. RFC Editor/ar > On Sep 15, 2025, at 11:58 AM, Alexander Clemm <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear Alice, > > I have returned from my trip. Thank you so much for your support in driving > this forward, and to Carlos for jumping in during my absence! > > I have the following small comments outstanding: > > (1) Could you please record my affiliation as "Sympotech"? (Address, email > etc staying the same, just s/Independent/Sympotech/). Thank you! > > > (2) Current: > > Therefore, the networking industry has an important role to play in > meeting sustainability goals and not just by enabling others to > reduce their reliance on energy but by also reducing its own. > > I find the "and" that was added a bit awkward; why not make it a comma which > more clearly separates the two aspekts (not just one, but als the other) to > result in: > > Suggested: > > Therefore, the networking industry has an important role to play in > meeting sustainability goals, not just by enabling others to > reduce their reliance on energy but by also reducing its own. > > (3) Section 6.1. We got rid of "right-placing", replacing it with "correctly > place". "Correct" is not the proper term here; you can place functions in > ways that are correct but that are at the same time inefficient and > suboptimal. I think "correct" needs to be replaced with "smart" here. i.e.: > > Current: > Likewise, there are opportunities to correctly place functionality in > the network for optimal effectiveness. > > Suggested: > > Likewise, there are opportunities to smartly place functionality in > the network for optimal effectiveness. > > (4) After the text changes, I think the 2nd paragraph in the motivation now > sounds a bit awkward and redundant (not wrong, but can be stylistically > improved; also this is at the very beginning of the document where we should > perhaps word things not quite as lengthily and should come to the point). I > liked the original version better. This will not be worth holding the > document up over, but I am wondering if we could still apply some > wordsmithing, perhaps: > > (If that throws in too much a wrench, please let me know in which case > I will withdraw my comment as it is not worth holding the document up > over) > > Current: > The science behind greenhouse gas emissions and their relationship > with climate change is complex. However, there is overwhelming > scientific consensus pointing toward a clear correlation between > climate change and a rising amount of greenhouse gases in the > atmosphere. When we say 'greenhouse gases' or GHG, we are referring > to gases in the Earth's atmosphere that trap heat and contribute to > the greenhouse effect. They include carbon dioxide (CO2), methane > (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), and fluorinated gases (as covered under > the Kyoto Protocol and Paris Agreement). In terms of emissions from > human activity, the dominant greenhouse gas is CO2; consequently, it > often becomes shorthand for "all GHGs". However, other gases are > also converted into "CO2-equivalents", or CO2e. One greenhouse gas > of particular concern, but by no means the only one, is carbon > dioxide (CO2). Carbon dioxide is emitted in the process of burning > fuels to generate energy that is used, for example, to power > electrical devices such as networking equipment. Notable here is the > use of fossil fuels (such as oil, which releases CO2 that had long > been removed from the earth's atmosphere), as opposed to the use of > renewable or sustainable fuels that do not "add" to the amount of CO2 > in the atmosphere. There are additional gases associated with > electricity generation, in particular methane (CH4) and nitrous oxide > (N2O). Although they exist in smaller quantities, they have an even > higher Global Warming Potential (GWP). > > Suggested: > > The science behind greenhouse gas emissions and their relationship > with climate change is complex. However, there is overwhelming > scientific consensus pointing toward a clear correlation between > climate change and a rising amount of greenhouse gases in the > atmosphere. When we say 'greenhouse gases' or GHG, we are referring > to gases in the Earth's atmosphere that trap heat and contribute to > the greenhouse effect. They include carbon dioxide (CO2), methane > (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), and fluorinated gases (as covered under > the Kyoto Protocol and Paris Agreement). > In terms of emissions from > human activity, the dominant greenhouse gas is carbon dioxide (CO2). > CO2 is emitted in the process of burning > fuels to generate energy that is used, for example, to power > electrical devices such as networking equipment. Those fuels often > include fossil fuels (such as oil), which releases > CO2 that had long > been removed from the earth's atmosphere), as opposed to the use of > renewable or sustainable fuels that do not "add" to the amount of CO2 > in the atmosphere. > Other GHGs such as CH4 and N2O are associated with electricity generation as > well. > Although they are emitted in smaller quantities, they have an even > higher Global Warming Potential (GWP). To facilitate accounting for them, > they are collectively simply converted into CO2 equivalents (CO2e). > > Thanks > --- Alex > On Sep 15, 2025, at 11:02 AM, Cedric Westphal <[email protected]> wrote: > > Actually, I looked at the whole draft and not just the substance of > the text, and please update my affiliation as: > Cedric Westphal, Department of Computer Science and Engineering, > University of California, Santa Cruz. > The email can be updated to [email protected] but the ieee email is fine. > That's my only request. > Best, > > C. > > On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 11:00 AM Cedric Westphal <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I approve as well! >> >> C. >> >> On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 12:53 AM Laurent Ciavaglia (Nokia) >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Alice, dear all, >>> >>> I have reviewed the changes made over the AUTH48 process/period, and found >>> them to address very well the identified issues, to improve the text and >>> formulation overall and to not change the iniital meaning of the >>> sentences/paragraphs. >>> Overall this is a very good work on the document for publication readiness. >>> Thank you Alice, RFC Editor team and co-authors for the improvements. >>> >>> Also, I hereby communicate my approval this RFC for publication. >>> >>> Thank you, best regards, Laurent >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Alice Russo <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Saturday, 6 September, 2025 10:31 PM >>> Cc: Alexander Clemm <[email protected]>; Alexander Clemm >>> <[email protected]>; [email protected]; Laurent Ciavaglia (Nokia) >>> <[email protected]>; Jeff Tantsura >>> <[email protected]>; Marie-Paule Odini <[email protected]>; >>> IRSG <[email protected]>; Jérôme François <[email protected]>; >>> auth48archive <[email protected]>; RFC Editor >>> <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9845 <draft-irtf-nmrg-green-ps-06> >>> for your review >>> >>> [You don't often get email from [email protected]. Learn >>> why this is important at >>> https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ] >>> >>> CAUTION: This is an external email. Please be very careful when clicking >>> links or opening attachments. See the URL nok.it/ext for additional >>> information. >>> >>> >>> >>> Carlos, >>> >>> Thank you for your reply. The revised files are here (please refresh): >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845.html >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845.txt >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845.pdf >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845.xml >>> >>> This diff file shows all changes from the approved I-D: >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845-diff.html >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845-rfcdiff.html (side by >>> side) >>> >>> This diff file shows the changes made during AUTH48 thus far: >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845-auth48diff.html >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845-auth48rfcdiff.html (side >>> by side) >>> >>> This diff file shows only the changes since the last posted version: >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9845-lastrfcdiff.html >>> >>> In addition to the changes you requested: >>> - removed extraneous 'to'. >>> - lowercased 'fluorinated'. >>> - replaced angled quotes with straight quotes per RFC style. >>> >>> Re: >>>> After fixing these three nits, please note and write down my >>>> Approval of the document at >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9845 >>> >>> Your approval has been recorded. We await word from your coauthors and the >>> Document Shepherd before continuing the publication process. >>> >>> Alice Russo >>> RFC Production Center -- auth48archive mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
