Dear all, Based on the history, Bing (Remy) Liu joined version 03 of this IETF draft in 2018. We are not familiar with his specific contributions from 2018 up to the latest versions of the document (2025). We received feedback from Liu on the IPR topic on 30 May 2023, during the year of the first IESG submission (draft version 18). After that, the draft was improved based on reviewers’ comments, but the main idea had already been established in the first IESG submission, during which we understand Liu was active.
Therefore, we would go with option 3 (“A stream manager can approve the document in place of the unavailable author”). However, we would like all the authors to discuss this among themselves and provide us with a single, unified answer (so far, we have option 2 and option 3 from different authors). Thus, please, Charlie, Anand, and Satish, let us know your unified answer *by 21 October*. Thank you very much in advance, Ines and Aris On Tue, Oct 14, 2025 at 9:26 AM Ketan Talaulikar <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Charles/co-authors, Ines, Aris, > > Could you please recommend which of the 3 options indicated by Kaelin are > most appropriate in this case of this document? > > Thanks, > Ketan > > > On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 2:08 AM Kaelin Foody <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi Charlie, all, >> >> Thank you for your response and for reaching out. >> >> > We have made good efforts to contact Remy Liubing and he has not >> responded. It has been over a month. I would like to proceed forward with >> publication of RFC9854. >> >> Per the FAQ (https://www.rfc-editor.org/faq/#missingauthor), we >> recommend one of the following paths forward: >> >> 1. The author can be removed as an author and moved to the >> Acknowledgements section. >> 2. The author can be removed as an author and moved to the Contributors >> section. >> 3. A stream manager can approve the document in place of the unavailable >> author. >> (See the IESG Statement on AUTH48 State.) >> >> Option 3 is typically used in instances where the missing author made >> significant contributions to the document, so >> the other authors are not comfortable removing the individual from the >> author list. >> >> Please review and let us know how you’d prefer to proceed. If you have an >> alternative solution, please feel free to let us know. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Kaelin Foody >> RFC Production Center >> >> > On Oct 7, 2025, at 2:20 PM, Charles Perkins <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > Hello folks, >> > >> > We have made good efforts to contact Remy Liubing and he has not >> responded. It has been over a month. I would like to proceed forward with >> publication of RFC9854. We have fulfilled all of the requests from the RFC >> Editors team; many thanks for their improvements and suggestions, in >> particular Kaelin Foody. >> > >> > Please let me know how I should proceed to facilitate the publication >> of RFC9854. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Charlie P. >> > >> > On 9/1/2025 10:19 PM, [email protected] wrote: >> >> *****IMPORTANT***** >> >> >> >> Updated 2025/09/01 >> >> >> >> RFC Author(s): >> >> -------------- >> >> >> >> Instructions for Completing AUTH48 >> >> >> >> Your document has now entered AUTH48. 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Please use ‘REPLY ALL’, >> >> as all the parties CCed on this message need to see your approval. >> >> >> >> >> >> Files >> >> ----- >> >> >> >> The files are available here: >> >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9854.xml >> >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9854.html >> >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9854.pdf >> >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9854.txt >> >> >> >> Diff file of the text: >> >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9854-diff.html >> >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9854-rfcdiff.html (side by side) >> >> >> >> Alt-diff of the text (allows you to more easily view changes >> >> where text has been deleted or moved): >> >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9854-alt-diff.html >> >> >> >> Diff of the XML: >> >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9854-xmldiff1.html >> >> >> >> >> >> Tracking progress >> >> ----------------- >> >> >> >> The details of the AUTH48 status of your document are here: >> >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9854 >> >> >> >> Please let us know if you have any questions. >> >> >> >> Thank you for your cooperation, >> >> >> >> RFC Editor >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------- >> >> RFC9854 (draft-ietf-roll-aodv-rpl-20) >> >> >> >> Title : Supporting Asymmetric Links in Low Power Networks: AODV-RPL >> >> Author(s) : C. Perkins, S.V.R. Anand, S. Anamalamudi, B. Liu >> >> WG Chair(s) : Ines Robles, Remous-Aris Koutsiamanis >> >> >> >> Area Director(s) : Jim Guichard, Ketan Talaulikar, Gunter Van de Velde >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >>
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