Hi Jake,

Thank you for your review.  We have noted your approval on the AUTH48 page 
<https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9881>.  We will continue with publication 
once we hear from Sean as well. 

Thank you,
Sandy Ginoza
RFC Production Center



> On Oct 13, 2025, at 5:51 PM, Massimo, Jake <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sandy,
> 
> Approved!
> 
> Cheers,
> Jake
> 
> On 10/12/25, 12:03 PM, "Sandy Ginoza" <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
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> 
> Hi Bas and Panos,
> 
> 
> Thank you for your reviews. We have noted your approvals on the AUTH48 page 
> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9881>. Once 
> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9881&gt;.&nbsp;&nbsp;Once> we have 
> received approvals from you coauthors, we will continue with the publication 
> process.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> Sandy Ginoza
> RFC Production Center
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 11, 2025, at 8:39 PM, Kampanakis, Panos <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Approved
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sandy Ginoza <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2025 4:16 PM
>> To: Bas Westerbaan <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> Cc: Sean Turner <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>; Massimo, Jake 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>; 
>> Kampanakis, Panos <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>; RFC Editor 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>; 
>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>; [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>; Russ Housley <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>>; Deb Cooley <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>>; [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9881 
>> <draft-ietf-lamps-dilithium-certificates-13> for your review
>> 
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>> Hi Jake, Bas, and Sean,
>> 
>> We have updated the document and posted the revised files here:
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9881.xml 
>> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9881.xml>
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9881.txt 
>> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9881.txt>
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9881.pdf 
>> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9881.pdf>
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9881.html 
>> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9881.html>
>> 
>> Diffs highlighting only the recent changes:
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9881-lastdiff.html 
>> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9881-lastdiff.html>
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9881-lastrfcdiff.html 
>> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9881-lastrfcdiff.html> (side by side)
>> 
>> AUTH48 diffs:
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9881-auth48diff.html 
>> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9881-auth48diff.html>
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9881-auth48rfcdiff.html 
>> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9881-auth48rfcdiff.html> (side by 
>> side)
>> 
>> Comprehensive diffs:
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9881-diff.html 
>> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9881-diff.html>
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9881-rfcdiff.html 
>> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9881-rfcdiff.html> (side by side)
>> 
>> 
>> Bas - regarding the following, the lines in RFC 5912 are already outdented 
>> (see https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5912.txt 
>> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5912.txt>, p17). The lines in RFC 5912 
>> are actually outdented 3 additional spaces; we are unable to make them match 
>> with our current tools.
>> 
>>>> Note that instead of breaking the line, we outdented — please let us know 
>>>> if you prefer otherwise.
>>> 
>>> Outdenting looks good to me, I'm assuming both "Current" and "From 
>>> [RFC5912]" will be outdented to match eachother.
>> 
>> 
>> Please review and let us know if any further updates are needed or if you 
>> approve the RFC for publication.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Sandy Ginoza
>> RFC Production Center
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 10, 2025, at 6:01 AM, Bas Westerbaan <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, good catch.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Oct 10, 2025 at 2:57 PM Sean Turner <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> Just want to make sure I didn’t introduce an error, but wanted more eyes:
>>> 
>>> Appendix D includes this:
>>> 
>>> # Referred to as 'Externalμ-ML-DSA.Prehash(pk, M, ctx)'
>>> # in the FIPS 204 FAQ.
>>> 
>>> and this:
>>> 
>>> # Referred to as 'Externalμ-ML-DSA.Sign(sk, μ)'
>>> # in the FIPS 204 FAQ.
>>> 
>>> Do we need to change these μ to Mu because that’s how the are actually 
>>> referenced in the FIPS FAQ?
>>> 
>>> spt
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 10, 2025, at 06:03, Bas Westerbaan <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Sandy,
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you for the quick updates.
>>>> 
>>>> I see some changes are still required.
>>>> 
>>>> - Section 2. Regarding changes for your origin point 1: you added an 
>>>> ampersand in front of "Params", but not in front of "id" on the line 
>>>> before that.
>>>> 
>>>> - References. Regarding changes for your original point 7: you haven't 
>>>> updated the URL of the reference CDFFJ21 to the specific version 
>>>> correctly. It should be 
>>>> https://eprint.iacr.org/archive/2020/1525/20231023:114351 
>>>> <https://eprint.iacr.org/archive/2020/1525/20231023:114351>
>>>> 
>>>> Otherwise it looks great, thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> 
>>>> Bas
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Oct 10, 2025 at 4:50 AM Massimo, Jake 
>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Hey Sandy, Bas,
>>>> 
>>>> I can check a few confirmations off of this list:
>>>> 
>>>>> Note that instead of breaking the line, we outdented — please let us know 
>>>>> if you prefer otherwise.
>>>> 
>>>> Outdenting looks good to me, I'm assuming both "Current" and "From 
>>>> [RFC5912]" will be outdented to match eachother.
>>>> 
>>>>> We updated to use “pre-hash” except in the following:
>>>>> # Referred to as 'Externalμ-ML-DSA.Prehash(pk, M, ctx)'
>>>>> Please let us know if any updates are needed.
>>>> 
>>>> Confirming this is ok, and that we would not want to change 
>>>> 'Externalμ-ML-DSA.Prehash'.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Jake
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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