On Wed, Oct 22, 2025, 2:51 PM Paul Hoffman <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Oct 21, 2025, at 06:41, Sarah Tarrant <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > * If you need/want to make updates to your document, we encourage you to
> make those
> > changes and resubmit to the Datatracker. This allows for the easy
> creation of diffs,
> > which facilitates review by interested parties (e.g., authors, ADs, doc
> shepherds).
>
> This was discussed on the RPC call today. These changes would cause a
> large amount of hassle because this is not an IETF stream document.
>
> Here is the set of changes we request to be made before AUTH84; please let
> us know if you have any questions.
>
> Section 1.3.1 and Section 7.6 say "...to the greatest extent possible."
> This should be clarified as "...to the greatest extent possible, as
> described in Section 2.2 of [RFC9720]."
>
> The draft ignores the fact that RFC 7990 was obsoleted by RFC 9720. This
> changes the following:
>
> - The "updates" list is currently "7990, 7991, 7992, 7993, 7994, 7995,
> 7996, 7997, 8729", but should instead be "7991, 7992, 7993, 7994, 7995,
> 7996, 7997, 8729, 9720". This appears in the document header and in the
> abstract.
>
> - Section 1.5 should read:
>    All instances of "RFC Editor" or "RFC Series Editor" in
>    [RFC7991], [RFC7992], [RFC7993], [RFC7994], [RFC7995], [RFC7996], and
>    [RFC7997] are replaced by "RFC Production Center (RPC)".
>
> > 1) As there may have been multiple updates made to the document during
> Last Call,
> > please review the current version of the document:
> >
> > * Is the text in the Abstract still accurate?
>
> Yes
>
> > * Are the Authors' Addresses, Contributors, and Acknowledgments
> > sections current?
>
> Yes
>
> > 2) Please share any style information that could help us with editing
> your
> > document. For example:
> >
> > * Is your document's format or its terminology based on another
> document?
> > If so, please provide a pointer to that document (e.g., this document's
> > terminology should match DNS terminology in RFC 9499).
> > * Is there a pattern of capitalization or formatting of terms? (e.g.,
> field names
> > should have initial capitalization; parameter names should be in double
> quotes;
> > <tt/> should be used for token names; etc.)
>
> This document attempts to make very precise updates to RFC 9280. As such,
> there should be no changes in the terminology or capitalization or
> formatting beyond what is in the draft.
>
> > 3) Please review the entries in the References section carefully with
> > the following in mind. Note that we will update as follows unless we
> > hear otherwise at this time:
> >
> > * References to obsoleted RFCs will be updated to point to the current
> > RFC on the topic in accordance with Section 4.8.6 of RFC 7322
> > (RFC Style Guide).
> >
> > * References to I-Ds that have been replaced by another I-D will be
> > updated to point to the replacement I-D.
> >
> > * References to documents from other organizations that have been
> > superseded will be updated to their superseding version.
> >
> > Note: To check for outdated RFC and I-D references, you can use
> > idnits <https://author-tools.ietf.org/idnits>. You can also help the
> > IETF Tools Team by testing idnits3 <
> https://author-tools.ietf.org/idnits3/>
> > with your document and reporting any issues to them.
>
> This one is tricky, and we wish Ted well on it. We *think* that all of the
> references to the obsoleted RFCs are correct, but we're happy to talk after
> his references review.
>
> See above for changes to the "Updates" list.
>
> > 4) Is there any text that should be handled extra cautiously? For
> example, are
> > there any sections that were contentious when the document was drafted?
>
> Er, the whole thing? Everything in Section 1.1 on gives exact changes from
> RFC 9280 that should also be reflected in the text starting at Section 2.
> People pored over this many times. We'd be happy to hear if there is a
> mismatch.
>
> > 5) Is there anything else that the RPC should be aware of while editing
> this
> > document?
>
> Given that this is in the Editorial stream, there is no clear guidance on
> who should be considered the approver during AUTH48. We suggest Eliot Lear,
> who is the document shepherd; he can ask other stream managers if that's OK.
>
> > 6) Would you like to participate in the RPC Pilot Test for editing in
> kramdown-rfc?
>
> Yes!
>
> > If so, please let us know and provide a self-contained kramdown-rfc
> file. For more
> > information about this experiment, see:
> > hhttps://www.rfc-editor.org/rpc/wiki/doku.php?id=pilot_test_kramdown_rfc
> .
>
> See attached. And, if you want, we can also be part of the GitHub test as
> well.
>
> --Paul Hoffman (also for Alexis, who has in fact not reviewed this message.
>

But she has now, and agrees.  😁
Alexis

>
>
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