Hi Jon,

We still have a little time left to try to get this one published in 2025.  
Please review the files below and let us know if any additional updates are 
needed or if you approve the RFC for publication. 

Thanks!
Sandy Ginoza
RFC Production Center 


> On Dec 2, 2025, at 4:08 PM, Orie <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jon,
> 
> Please reply to this email.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> OS
> 
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2025 at 8:06 AM Madison Church <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> Hi Jon,
> 
> This is a friendly weekly reminder that we await your approval before 
> proceeding with publication. We have listed the updated files below for 
> convenience. Please review the files carefully as we do not make changes 
> after publication.  
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> 
> > On Nov 18, 2025, at 1:36 PM, Megan Ferguson 
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Jon,
> > 
> > Just a friendly reminder that we await your approval of this document.  
> > 
> > Please see the thread for further information and let us know if you’d like 
> > us to implement any further changes or proceed with the document in its 
> > current form.
> > 
> > Thank you.
> > 
> > RFC Editor/mf
> > 
> >> On Nov 10, 2025, at 10:17 AM, Megan Ferguson 
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hi Jon,
> >> 
> >> Just a ping that we are awaiting your review/approval of the 
> >> implementation of the updates requested prior to moving this document 
> >> forward in the publication process.
> >> 
> >> Please see the message below for further info.
> >> 
> >> Thank you.
> >> 
> >> Megan Ferguson
> >> RFC Production Center
> >> 
> >>> On Oct 23, 2025, at 1:55 PM, Megan Ferguson 
> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hi Jon,
> >>> 
> >>> Thank you for your reply.  We have updated according to your preferences.
> >>> 
> >>> Please review the files carefully as we do not make changes after 
> >>> publication.  
> >>> 
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> >>> 
> >>> Please contact us with any further updates/questions/comments you may 
> >>> have.  
> >>> 
> >>> We will await approvals from each of the parties listed on the AUTH48 
> >>> status page prior to moving forward to publication.  
> >>> 
> >>> The AUTH48 status page for this document is available here:
> >>> 
> >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9888
> >>> 
> >>> Thank you.
> >>> 
> >>> Megan Ferguson
> >>> RFC Production Center
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> On Oct 22, 2025, at 1:04 PM, Peterson, Jon 
> >>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> 1) <!-- [rfced] We had the following questions/comments about the 
> >>>> document title: a) Please note that the title of the document has been 
> >>>> updated as follows: Abbreviations have been expanded per Section 3.6 of 
> >>>> RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). Please review. Original: Out-of-Band STIR 
> >>>> for Service Providers Current: Out-of-Band Secure Telephone Identity 
> >>>> Revisited (STIR) for Service Providers b) Should "Framework" or 
> >>>> something be added after (STIR) (once expanded, it doesn't seem like a 
> >>>> noun anymore...). 
> >>>> 
> >>>> JFP: I don’t think “Framework” is necessary in the title.
> >>>> 
> >>>> See also our change to the first sentence of the Introduction. Perhaps: 
> >>>> Out-of-Band Secure Telephone Identity Revisited (STIR) Framework for 
> >>>> Service Providers 
> >>>> 
> >>>> JFP: The first sentence of the intro is talking about STIR in general, 
> >>>> not this out-of-band framework. So, it is okay as it reads in your 
> >>>> initial change, 
> >>>> 
> >>>> --> 2) <!--[rfced] We had a few questions about the following sentence: 
> >>>> Original: Moreover, any additional information included in a PASSporT 
> >>>> which is not strictly redundant with the contents of a SIP request 
> >>>> increases data collection concerns; while baseline [RFC8225] PASSporTs 
> >>>> only contain information otherwise in the SIP request. a) Please help us 
> >>>> clarify the subject of "which". Is it "information" or is it "PASSporT”? 
> >>>> 
> >>>> JFP: It is “information”. You can s/which/that
> >>>> 
> >>>> b) Could the "while" be removed? This seems to be further information, 
> >>>> not contrasting information? 
> >>>> 
> >>>> JFP: Really the semicolon before the “while” should be a comma. This is 
> >>>> contrasting information: the baseline PASSporT  only contains 
> >>>> information that is strictly redundant with the contents of a SIP 
> >>>> request.
> >>>> 
> >>>> c) Please clarify "only contain information otherwise in the SIP 
> >>>> request". Does this mean only redundant information? Perhaps: Moreover, 
> >>>> in a PASSporT, any additional information that is not strictly redundant 
> >>>> with the contents of a SIP request increases data  collection concerns; 
> >>>> baseline [RFC8225] PASSporTs only contain information redundant with the 
> >>>> SIP request. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> JFP: I think converting the semicolon to a comma, and perhaps 
> >>>> s/which/that, would be sufficient to clarify, but this proposed wording 
> >>>> is also OK.
> >>>> 
> >>>> --> 3) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of 
> >>>> the online Style Guide and let us know if any changes are needed. 
> >>>> Updates of this nature typically result in more precise language, which 
> >>>> is helpful for readers. Note that our script did not flag any words in 
> >>>> particular, but this should still be reviewed as a best practice. In 
> >>>> addition, please consider whether "tradition" should be updated for 
> >>>> clarity. While the NIST website <> indicates that this term is 
> >>>> potentially biased, it is also ambiguous. "Tradition" is a subjective 
> >>>> term, as it is not the same for everyone. Original: ..may send SIP 
> >>>> INVITEs to a gateway in front of a traditional PSTN… 
> >>>> 
> >>>> JFP: The usage of “traditional” here is OK I think.
> >>>> 
> >>>> --> 4) <!-- [rfced] We had the following questions/comments about 
> >>>> abbreviation use throughout the document: a) FYI - We have added 
> >>>> expansions for abbreviations upon first use per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 
> >>>> ("RFC Style Guide"). Please review each expansion in the document 
> >>>> carefully to ensure correctness. b) FYI - We will update to use the 
> >>>> abbreviation only after the first use for the following abbreviations in 
> >>>> accordance with the online Style Guide: OOB-AS SPC 
> >>>> 
> >>>> JFP: OK
> >>>> 
> >>>> --> 5) <!--[rfced] Please review the use of citation tags throughout the 
> >>>> document: some are read as part of the sentence while others are not 
> >>>> syntactically relevant. Please see the online Style Guide for further 
> >>>> information/guidance.
> >>>> 
> >>>> JFP: I think it’s OK.
> >>>> 
> >>>> --> 6) <!--[rfced] We see the following similar terminology used 
> >>>> throughout the document. Please let us know if/how we may make these 
> >>>> consistent. STIR credential vs. STIR certificate vs. STIR [RFC8816] 
> >>>> certificate out-of-band STIR vs. STIR out-of-band vs. STIR  out-of-band 
> >>>> framework [RFC8816] 
> >>>> 
> >>>> JFP: I’ve reviewed these instances and I think the usage in the doc is 
> >>>> OK.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Thanks!
> >>>> 
> >>>> --> Thank you. Megan Ferguson RFC Production Center
> >>> 
> >> 
> > 
> 

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