Dear *Jim,

We are having difficulty in reaching Bow-Nan Cheng.  Bow-Nan's approval is the 
only approval needed to publish RFCs 9892, 9893, 9894, and 9895.

The AUTH48 status pages for these documents are here:

 https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9892
 https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9893
 https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9894
 https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9895

Any assistance in getting these documents moved forward is most appreciated!

Thank you!

Lynne Bartholomew
RFC Production Center

> On Jan 5, 2026, at 10:17 AM, Lynne Bartholomew 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Dear Bow-Nan,
> 
> We do not believe that we have heard from you regarding this document's 
> readiness for publication.  Please review the document, and let us know 
> whether further changes are needed or you approve the document for 
> publication in its current form.
> 
> The latest files are posted here.  Please refresh your browser:
> 
>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.txt
>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.pdf
>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.html
>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.xml
>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-diff.html
>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-rfcdiff.html (side by side)
>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-auth48diff.html
>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by side)
>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-lastdiff.html
>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-lastrfcdiff.html (side by side)
> 
>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-xmldiff1.html
>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-xmldiff2.html
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> Lynne Bartholomew
> RFC Production Center
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2025, at 9:04 AM, Lynne Bartholomew 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Don and Bow-Nan.
>> 
>> Don, we have noted your approval on the AUTH48 status page:
>> 
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9892
>> 
>> Bow-Nan, we do not believe that we have heard from you regarding this 
>> document's readiness for publication.  Please review the document, and let 
>> us know whether further changes are needed or you approve the document for 
>> publication in its current form.
>> 
>> The latest files are posted here.  Please refresh your browser:
>> 
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.txt
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.pdf
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.html
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.xml
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-diff.html
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-rfcdiff.html (side by side)
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-auth48diff.html
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by side)
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-lastdiff.html
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-lastrfcdiff.html (side by side)
>> 
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-xmldiff1.html
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-xmldiff2.html
>> 
>> Thank you!
>> 
>> Lynne Bartholomew
>> RFC Production Center
>> 
>>> On Dec 19, 2025, at 8:32 AM, Don Fedyk <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Lynne
>>> 
>>> Thanks for all your work, The document looks good to me, 
>>> 
>>> DonFrom: Lynne Bartholomew <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2025 11:43 AM
>>> To: Don Fedyk <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: Lou Berger <[email protected]>; James Guichard 
>>> <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
>>> [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] 
>>> <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
>>> [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
>>> [email protected]<[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9892 
>>> <draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification-17> for your review
>>> Hi, Don.
>>> 
>>> We further updated this document per your note below.
>>> 
>>> The latest files are posted here.  Please refresh your browser:
>>> 
>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.txt
>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.pdf
>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.html
>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.xml
>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-diff.html
>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-rfcdiff.html (side by side)
>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-auth48diff.html
>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by 
>>> side)
>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-lastdiff.html
>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-lastrfcdiff.html (side by side)
>>> 
>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-xmldiff1.html
>>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-xmldiff2.html
>>> 
>>> Thank you!
>>> 
>>> Lynne Bartholomew
>>> RFC Production Center
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 15, 2025, at 3:46 PM, Don Fedyk <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Lynn
>>>> Inline [Don]
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> DonFrom: Lynne Bartholomew <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2025 1:34 PM
>>>> To: Don Fedyk <[email protected]>
>>>> Cc: Lou Berger <[email protected]>; James Guichard 
>>>> <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
>>>> [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] 
>>>> <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
>>>> [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
>>>> [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Re: *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9892 
>>>> <draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification-17> for your review
>>>> 
>>>> Hi, Don.
>>>> 
>>>> Please let us know whether or not we should make a further update 
>>>> regarding the following (copied from our 12/8/2025 email below):
>>>> 
>>>>> Don, we still have one more question for you; apologies for missing this 
>>>>> one earlier. Should the following be made consistent?
>>>>> 
>>>>> across the Data Item and not the individual Sub-Data Item /
>>>>> across the Data Item and not the individual Sub-Data Items
>>>> 
>>>> [Don] Yes the latter "across the Data Item and not the individual Sub-Data 
>>>> Items"   
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> We are asking about "individual Sub-Data Item" vs. "individual Sub-Data 
>>>> Items".  We are fine with leaving as is if this isn't an issue.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you!
>>>> 
>>>> Lynne Bartholomew
>>>> RFC Production Center
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 10, 2025, at 11:29 AM, Lynne Bartholomew 
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi, Lou.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We've noted your approval on the AUTH48 status page.  Please let us know 
>>>>> if your note did not indicate approval, and we'll revert:
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9892
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lynne Bartholomew
>>>>> RFC Production Center
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 10, 2025, at 10:26 AM, Lou Berger <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Lynne,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank you - this looks good to me.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Lou
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 12/9/2025 7:08 PM, Lynne Bartholomew wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi, Lou, Don, and *Jim.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Lou, we've updated this document per your note below.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> *Jim, please review the latest update to the text under "Length:" in 
>>>>>>> Section 2.2, and let us know if you approve.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The latest files are posted here.  Please refresh your browser:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.txt
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.pdf
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.html
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.xml
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-diff.html
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-rfcdiff.html (side by side)
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-auth48diff.html
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by 
>>>>>>> side)
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-lastdiff.html
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-lastrfcdiff.html (side by 
>>>>>>> side)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-xmldiff1.html
>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-xmldiff2.html
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Lynne Bartholomew
>>>>>>> RFC Production Center
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Dec 9, 2025, at 7:09 AM, Don Fedyk <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I agree with Lou the maximum value is the Length of single sub data 
>>>>>>>> item - one FID makes more sense.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>> On Dec 8, 2025, at 3:26 PM, Lou Berger <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> I believe I see an error in 
>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.txt
>>>>>>>> In the following. The total provide is for the data item not the 
>>>>>>>> sub-data item length.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Length:
>>>>>>>> Variable
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Length is defined above. For this Sub-Data Item, it is equal to
>>>>>>>> three (3) octets plus the value of the Num DSCPs field. This
>>>>>>>> means that the maximum Length based on a single DSCP per FID for
>>>>>>>> this TLV could be 64 times two (FID) plus one for (Num DSCPs) plus
>>>>>>>> one octet for a single DSCP or 256 octets. The definition can be
>>>>>>>> in multiple Sub-Data Items that are much smaller than this.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> OLD
>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>> means that the maximum Length based on a single DSCP per FID for
>>>>>>>> this TLV could be 64 times two (FID) plus one for (Num DSCPs) plus
>>>>>>>> one octet for a single DSCP or 256 octets.
>>>>>>>> NEW
>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>> means that the maximum Length value is 3 + 64 or 67 octets.
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Lou
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 12/8/2025 1:18 PM, Lynne Bartholomew wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Dear Don, Bow-Nan, and Lou.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Checking in with you regarding the status of this document. Please 
>>>>>>>>> let us know whether further updates are needed or you approve this 
>>>>>>>>> document for publication in its current form.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Don, we still have one more question for you; apologies for missing 
>>>>>>>>> this one earlier. Should the following be made consistent?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> across the Data Item and not the individual Sub-Data Item /
>>>>>>>>> across the Data Item and not the individual Sub-Data Items
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The latest files are posted here. Please refresh your browser:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.txt
>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.pdf
>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.html
>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.xml
>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-diff.html
>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-rfcdiff.html (side by side)
>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-auth48diff.html
>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-auth48rfcdiff.html (side 
>>>>>>>>> by side)
>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-lastdiff.html
>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-lastrfcdiff.html (side by 
>>>>>>>>> side)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-xmldiff1.html
>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-xmldiff2.html
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The AUTH48 status page is here:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9892
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Lynne Bartholomew
>>>>>>>>> RFC Production Center
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 2, 2025, at 1:26 PM, Lynne Bartholomew 
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Jim. So noted:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9892
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Lynne Bartholomew
>>>>>>>>>> RFC Production Center
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 2, 2025, at 9:07 AM, James Guichard 
>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Update looks okay for me. Approved.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Get Outlook for iOS
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Lynne Bartholomew <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 1, 2025 3:18:51 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Don Fedyk <[email protected]>; James Guichard 
>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>; Lou Berger 
>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>; [email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>; [email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>; [email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>; 
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]<[email protected]>;[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>  <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9892 
>>>>>>>>>>> <draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification-17> for your review 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Don and *AD (Jim).
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> * Jim, please review the updates to the "VLAN Identifier (VID):" 
>>>>>>>>>>> paragraph in Section 2.3, and let us know if you approve. We ask 
>>>>>>>>>>> for your approval because the updates could be considered "beyond 
>>>>>>>>>>> editorial".
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Don, no worries, and we hope that you had a good holiday weekend.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> We have made further updates to this document per your notes below, 
>>>>>>>>>>> but we still have one more question for you; apologies for missing 
>>>>>>>>>>> this one earlier. Should the following be made consistent?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> across the Data Item and not the individual Sub-Data Item /
>>>>>>>>>>> across the Data Item and not the individual Sub-Data Items
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The latest files are posted here. Please refresh your browser:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.txt
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.html
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.xml
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-diff.html
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-rfcdiff.html (side by 
>>>>>>>>>>> side)
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-auth48diff.html
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-auth48rfcdiff.html (side 
>>>>>>>>>>> by side)
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-lastdiff.html
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-lastrfcdiff.html (side 
>>>>>>>>>>> by side)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-xmldiff1.html
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-xmldiff2.html
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Lynne Bartholomew
>>>>>>>>>>> RFC Production Center
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 1, 2025, at 9:23 AM, Don Fedyk <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Lynn
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, short work week last week.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Inline [Don]
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank You,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Lynne Bartholomew <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2025 12:46 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Don Fedyk <[email protected]>; [email protected] 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>; Lou Berger <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]<[email protected]>; 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]<[email protected]>; 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]<[email protected]>;[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>  <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9892 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification-17> for your review
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Don, Bow-Nan, and Lou.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Don, thank you for your reply.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding this reply from you: We changed "the maximum Length for 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the based on" to "the maximum Length based on". Please let us know 
>>>>>>>>>>>> if some other words were missing that should be added.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don] I believe - checking my math again that this length is on a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> per Traiffic Identifier basis.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If every FID was mapped to an explicit DSCP the length would be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (2+1+1) * 64 = 256.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> NEW "under DiffServ Traffic Classification Sub-Data Item"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>>>> means that the maximum Length for the based on a single DSCP per 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> FID for this TLV
>>>>>>>>>>>>> could be 64 times two ( FID) plus one for (Num DSCPs) plus one 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> octet for a single DSCP
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or 256 octets.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> " Think the error was using 3 instead of 2 and resulting in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> counting the Num DSCPs twice"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding our question 18)b) and your reply:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Which form is preferred for consistency in this document -- 
>>>>>>>>>>>> priority field, Priority field, or Priority Field?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don] Priority Field
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Same question for these two; which form is preferred?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Item Types / Item types
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Item Types (used in RFC 8175)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Num PCPs (1 instance) / NumPCPs (4 instances)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don] Ahh, Ascii Art limited us to NumPCPs I would use that 
>>>>>>>>>>>> everywhere to make it consistent.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> b) The following terms appear to be used inconsistently in this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> document. Please let us know which form is preferred.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> priority field / Priority field / Priority Field
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (e.g., "priority fields", "Priority fields",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Each Priority Field is", "each Priority field is")
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Item Types / Item types (e.g., "Traffic Classification 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sub-Data Item
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Types", "Traffic Classification Sub-Data Item types")
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Num PCPs (1 instance) / NumPCPs (4 instances)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (We also see "Num DSCPs" and "Num SDIs".)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the individual Sub-Data Item / the individual Sub-Data Items 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don] Good Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> = = = = =
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Would you like to make this update, mentioned by Donald Eastlake 
>>>>>>>>>>>> in relation to RFC-to-be 9895? Please read his entire reply (i.e., 
>>>>>>>>>>>> that nothing is wrong but that consistency might be good).
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don] The VID in this douement is 12bits. The largest it can be is 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 0xFFE. Therefore the value of 0x000 would be the corresponing 
>>>>>>>>>>>> representation but not used much. I don't see a problem with 
>>>>>>>>>>>> zero(0) in this case but when I maeked up up I guess 0x000 is more 
>>>>>>>>>>>> consistent.. As far as the reserved values those are inherited 
>>>>>>>>>>>> from IEEE 802.1Q.
>>>>>>>>>>>> See mark up below. [Don]
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Our question for Donald:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. In companion document RFC-to-be 9892, should we ask the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> authors
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if the "zero (0)" in the following paragraph should be updated to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list the hex value 0x0000, as was done per your second update 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> note
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (further below) for this document? We ask because we see two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instances of "The value 0xFFFF is reserved" in RFC-to-be 9892:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VLAN Identifier (VID):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A 12-bit unsigned integer field indicating the VLAN to be used in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> traffic classification. A value of zero (0) indicates that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VID is to be ignored and any VID is to be accepted during traffic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> classification. Any explicitly mapped VLANs are matched first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any VLANs that do not have a mapping will then map to this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mapping.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Donald's reply:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I don't think the two occurrences of 0xFFFF in this document
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have anything to do with this because they refer to the FID, not 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> VID. However, I think the full change to this text that I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggested
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for this (except the self-referential reference to 9892) would be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OLD
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A value of zero (0) indicates that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> VID is to be ignored and any VID is to be accepted during traffic
>>>>>>>>>>>>> classification.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> NEW
>>>>>>>>>>>>> VID value zero (0x0000) is used
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to indicate that the VID is ignored and VID 0xFFFF is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reserved. Any other VID value from 0x0001 through 0xFFFE can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> used in traffic classification.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don]
>>>>>>>>>>>> NEW
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> VID value zero (0x000) is used
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to indicate that the VID is ignored and VID 0xFFF is reserved.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any other VID value from 0x001 through 0xFFE can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> used in traffic classification.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps you should suggest the above to the authors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, use of "(0)" is not wrong, it's just that it seems much 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> consistent for all the VIDs (VLAN IDs) to be given in the same hex
>>>>>>>>>>>>> format.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> = = = = =
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> The latest files are posted here. Please refresh your browser:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.txt
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.html
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-diff.html
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-rfcdiff.html (side by 
>>>>>>>>>>>> side)
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-auth48diff.html
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-auth48rfcdiff.html 
>>>>>>>>>>>> (side by side)
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-lastdiff.html
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-lastrfcdiff.html (side 
>>>>>>>>>>>> by side)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-xmldiff1.html
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-xmldiff2.html
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lynne Bartholomew
>>>>>>>>>>>> RFC Production Center
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 20, 2025, at 4:03 PM, Don Fedyk <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Lynn
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, sorry, some of those additions came about because of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> comments on how large the data items could. The important thing 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was to make sure the object was reasonably bouunded but I think I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have corrected it below.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Inline [Don]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Lynne Bartholomew <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2025 12:03 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Don Fedyk <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] <[email protected]>; Lou Berger 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]<[email protected]>;[email protected]<[email protected]>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  [email protected]<[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9892 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification-17> for your review
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Don. Thank you for your prompt reply!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have updated this document per your notes below.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have a few follow-up items for you:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Apologies; in looking at our question 8) more closely, we see 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "maximum Length base on" and wonder if "base on" should be "based 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on". We also wonder if "Num DSCPs plus one DSCPs" should be "(Num 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DSCPs plus one)" (as in showing an addition). Should we update 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> per our "Possibly" text, or could you provide a better way to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> write this sentence?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.2: Please clarify "one DSCPs". There 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appears
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be a singular-versus-plural issue (i.e., perhaps either "one 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DSCP"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or "one or more DSCPs" would be correct here).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> means that the maximum Length base on a FID per DSCP for this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TLV
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could be 64 times 3 plus one for Num DSCPs plus one DSCPs or 320
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> octets. -->
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don] Should be "one DSCP".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>>>> means that the maximum Length base on a FID per DSCP for this TLV
>>>>>>>>>>>>> could be 64 times 3 plus one for Num DSCPs plus one DSCPs or 320
>>>>>>>>>>>>> octets.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Possibly:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>>>> means that the maximum Length based on a FID per DSCP for this TLV
>>>>>>>>>>>>> could be 64 times 3 plus one for (Num DSCPs plus one) octets, or 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 320
>>>>>>>>>>>>> octets.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don] I believe - checking my math again that this length is on a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> per Traiffic Identifier basis.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If every FID was mapped to an explicit DSCP the length would be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (2+1+1) * 64 = 256.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> NEW "under DiffServ Traffic Classification Sub-Data Item"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>>>> means that the maximum Length for the based on a single DSCP per 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> FID for this TLV
>>>>>>>>>>>>> could be 64 times two ( FID) plus one for (Num DSCPs) plus one 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> octet for a single DSCP
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or 256 octets.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> " Think the error was using 3 instead of 2 and resulting in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> counting the Num DSCPs twice"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> = = = = =
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Regarding our question 11) and your reply: We updated per your 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> note, except that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> we changed "number octets" to "number of octets". If this is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> incorrect, should
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "number octets" be clarified?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.3: We had trouble following these 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sentences.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does "the next higher integer quantity" refer to a higher 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quantity that comes next, or does it mean "the next-higher 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quantity" or "the next-highest integer quantity"? In the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equation,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does "divided by 2 or 16 octets" mean "divided by either 2 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> octets or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 16 octets", or something else?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that as length is in octets and each Priority field is 4 bits, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional length is the value carried in the NumPCPs field
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> divided by two and rounded up to the next higher integer 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quantity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This TLV has maximum length of 4 plus 8 divided by 2 or 16 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> octets. -->
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don] I think that is bad math. Sorry.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NEW
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that as length is in octets and each Priority field is 4 bits, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> total length of this Sub-Data Item is the 2 octets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Flow Identifer, plus the 2 octets for NumPCPs and VLAN 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Identifier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plus the number octets for Priority Code Points. The number of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> octets for the PCPs is computed by rounding up the NumPCPs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the nearest even value and dividing by 2.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This TLV has maximum length of 4 plus 8 divided by 2 or 8 octets.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that as the length is in octets and each Priority field is 4 bits,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the total length of this Sub-Data Item is the 2 octets of Flow
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Identifier, plus the 2 octets for NumPCPs and VLAN Identifier plus
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the number of octets for PCPs. The number of octets for the PCPs
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is computed by rounding up NumPCPs to the nearest even value and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dividing by 2. This TLV has maximum length of 4 plus 8 divided by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 or 8 octets.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don] Yes thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> = = = = =
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Regarding our question 15) and your reply:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 15) <!-- [rfced] Section 4: We had trouble following "some 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> references to external documents listed below" in this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paragraph.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It appears that "external documents" is intended to refer to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [BCP195], [IEEE-802.1AE], and [IEEE-8802-1X].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, we see that [RFC8175] cites [IEEE-802.1X] ("IEEE 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Standards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for Local and metropolitan area networks-Port-Based Network 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Access
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Control"), but this document cites [IEEE-8802-1X] ("IEEE/ISO/IEC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> International Standard-Telecommunications and exchange between
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information technology systems-Requirements for local and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> metropolitan area networks-Part 1X:Port-based network access
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control").
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> May we update as suggested? If not, please clarify the text.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The transport layer security mechanisms documented in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [RFC8175], with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some updated references to external documents listed below, can 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> applied to this document.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suggested:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The transport layer security mechanisms documented in [RFC8175],
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> along with the latest versions of [BCP195], [IEEE-802.1AE], and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [IEEE-8802-1X] at the time of this writing, can be applied to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> document. -->
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don] Yes accepted Suggested but the IEEE-8802-1X is the ISO 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version of IEEE-802.1X
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9650828
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we should use the IEEE version change IEEE-8802-1X to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IEEE-802.1X.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don] The practice is IEEE publishes IEEE802.1X for example, then 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ISO republishes it so it is the same document mostly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> However we usually refer to the IEEE base document and did that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for IEEE 802.1Q.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought pasted the corrected URL for Original IEEE spec but 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe I goofed. Here it is again. IEEE 802.1X-2020
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9018454
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apologies for our confusion: When we go to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9650828>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> we see "8802-1X-2021 - IEEE/ISO/IEC International 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Standard-Telecommunications and exchange
>>>>>>>>>>>>> between information technology systems--Requirements for local 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and metropolitan area
>>>>>>>>>>>>> networks--Part 1X:Port-based network access control".
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is <https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9650828> the wrong URL?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We changed the citation string per your note but would like to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> confirm that this update
>>>>>>>>>>>>> won't be confusing to readers. We also ask because RFC-to-be 9893 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cites IEEE 8802-1X
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and uses the citation string "[IEEE-8802-1X]".
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [IEEE-802.1X]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> IEEE, "8802-1X-2021 - IEEE/ISO/IEC International Standard-
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Telecommunications and exchange between information
>>>>>>>>>>>>> technology systems--Requirements for local and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> metropolitan area networks--Part 1X:Port-based network
>>>>>>>>>>>>> access control", DOI 10.1109/IEEESTD.2021.9650828, IEEE
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Std IEEE-802.1X-2021, December 2021,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9650828>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [DON] use https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9018454
>>>>>>>>>>>>> = = = = =
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Regarding our question 18)b) and your reply -- please let us 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> know which form is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> preferred for the following three items:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> b) The following terms appear to be used inconsistently in this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> document. Please let us know which form is preferred.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> priority field / Priority field / Priority Field
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (e.g., "priority fields", "Priority fields",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Each Priority Field is", "each Priority field is")
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Item Types / Item types (e.g., "Traffic Classification Sub-Data 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Item
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Types", "Traffic Classification Sub-Data Item types")
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Num PCPs (1 instance) / NumPCPs (4 instances)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (We also see "Num DSCPs" and "Num SDIs".)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the individual Sub-Data Item / the individual Sub-Data Items -->
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don] Good Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> = = = = =
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The latest files are posted here. Please refresh your browser:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.txt
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-diff.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-rfcdiff.html (side by 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> side)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-auth48diff.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-auth48rfcdiff.html 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (side by side)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-xmldiff1.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9892-xmldiff2.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lynne Bartholomew
>>>>>>>>>>>>> RFC Production Center
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2025, at 6:24 AM, Don Fedyk <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks My comments inline [Don]. Please let me know if anything 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not clear.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2025 4:57 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; Lou Berger 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>; Don Fedyk <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]<[email protected]>; 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]<[email protected]>;[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9892 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification-17> for your review
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Authors,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> necessary) the following questions, which are also in the source 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appear in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> title) for use on <https://www.rfc-editor.org/search>. -->
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Diffserv Code Points
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ethernet Priority Code Points.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) <!-- [rfced] Section 1: We had trouble following the "and", 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "or", and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "and/or" relationships in this sentence. If the suggested text 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct, please clarify.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The defined mechanism allows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for flows to be described in a flexible fashion and when combined
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with applications such as credit window control, allows credit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows to be shared across traffic sent to multiple DLEP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> destinations and as part of multiple flows, or used exclusively 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> traffic sent to a particular destination and/or belonging to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particular flow.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suggested:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The defined mechanism allows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for flows to be described in a flexible fashion and, when 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> combined
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with applications such as credit window control, allows credit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows to be (1) shared across traffic sent to multiple DLEP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> destinations and as part of multiple flows or (2) used 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exclusively
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for traffic sent to a particular destination and/or belonging to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particular flow. -->
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don] Ok.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) <!-- [rfced] Section 2: Does "based on IP protocol and" 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (which looks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like "based on Internet Protocol protocol and") mean "based on IP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> protocol type and" or something else?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don]The IP transport layer protocol. (Examples: TCP, UDP etc.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Other types of flow identification, e.g., based on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IP protocol and ports, may be defined in the future via new 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sub-Data
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Items. -->
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don] Suggested: NEW
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Other types of flow identification, e.g., based on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IP transport layer protocol and ports, may be defined in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future via new Sub-Data
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4) <!-- [rfced] Sections 2.1 and 2.1.1: We do not see a Type 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> field in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RFC 8175, but we see a "Data Item Type" field. May we update as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggested (per Section 11.3 ("DLEP Generic Data Item") of RFC 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8175),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to distinguish this definition from the definitions of Length in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sections 11.1 ("DLEP Signal Header") and 11.2 ("DLEP Message 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Header")
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of RFC 8175, which do not mention excluding a "Type" field?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Per [RFC8175] Length is the number of octets in the Data Item,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> excluding the Type and Length fields.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Copying [RFC8175], Length is a 16-bit unsigned integer that is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> number of octets in the Sub-Data Item, excluding the Type and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Length fields.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suggested:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Per Section 11.3 of [RFC8175], Length is the number of octets in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Data Item, excluding the Data Item Type and Length fields.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Per Section 11.3 of [RFC8175], Length is a 16-bit unsigned 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is the number of octets in the Sub-Data Item, excluding the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Data Item Type and Length fields. -->
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes Data Item Type vs Type.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.1: For ease of the reader, we changed 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "below"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to "in Section 2.1.1". If this is incorrect, please clarify what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "below" refers to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Traffic Classification Sub-Data Item:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zero or more Traffic Classification Sub-Data Items of the format
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defined below MAY be included.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Traffic Classification Sub-Data Item:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zero or more Traffic Classification Sub-Data Items of the format
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defined in Section 2.1.1 MAY be included. -->
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don] Yes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.1.1: We had trouble following the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meaning of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "on a per Sub-Data Item Type". Are some words missing?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The maximum length is limited on a per Sub-Data
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Item Type. -->
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don] NEW
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Each Sub-Data Item has its own length field.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is all that is needed. Each Sub-Data Item is subject
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the maximum length of encompassing the Data Item.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.1.1: We see that the Value field is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> under "Sub-Data Item Type:" but is not otherwise defined. Would 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like to add a list item and explanation of the Value field?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For example, Section 11.3 of RFC 8175 provides this definition 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Value field:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Value: A field of <Length> octets that contains data specific to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particular Data Item.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don] Value is the same as defined in RFC 8175.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Repeating this definition is fine. Value is only used for the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> general format.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~ Value... ~
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sub-Data Item Type:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A 16-bit unsigned integer that indicates the type and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corresponding format of the Sub-Data Item's Value field. ... -->
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.2: Please clarify "one DSCPs". There 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appears
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be a singular-versus-plural issue (i.e., perhaps either "one 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DSCP"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or "one or more DSCPs" would be correct here).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> means that the maximum Length base on a FID per DSCP for this TLV
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could be 64 times 3 plus one for Num DSCPs plus one DSCPs or 320
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> octets. -->
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don] Should be "one DSCP".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.2: Please confirm that there is no 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IANA registration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> associated with the value "0xFFFF" in this sentence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The value of 0xFFFF is reserved and MUST NOT be used in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this field.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don] Correct this is just a reserved Flow Identifier. No IANA 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> registration.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.2: We changed "is an 8-bit that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carries" to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "is 8 bits long and carries". If this update is incorrect, please
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clarify the meaning of "an 8-bit that carries".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DS Field:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Each DS Field is an 8-bit that carries the DSCP field defined in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [RFC2474].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DS Field:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Each DS Field is 8 bits long and carries the DSCP field as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defined in [RFC2474]. -->
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don] Good "8 bits long" is better
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> r
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.3: We had trouble following these 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sentences.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does "the next higher integer quantity" refer to a higher integer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quantity that comes next, or does it mean "the next-higher 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> integer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quantity" or "the next-highest integer quantity"? In the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equation,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does "divided by 2 or 16 octets" mean "divided by either 2 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> octets or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 16 octets", or something else?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that as length is in octets and each Priority field is 4 bits, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional length is the value carried in the NumPCPs field
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> divided by two and rounded up to the next higher integer 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quantity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This TLV has maximum length of 4 plus 8 divided by 2 or 16 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> octets. -->
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don] I think that is bad math. Sorry.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NEW
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that as length is in octets and each Priority field is 4 bits, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> total length of this Sub-Data Item is the 2 octets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Flow Identifer, plus the 2 octets for NumPCPs and VLAN 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Identifier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plus the number octets for Priority Code Points. The number of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> octets for the PCPs is computed by rounding up the NumPCPs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the nearest even value and dividing by 2.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This TLV has maximum length of 4 plus 8 divided by 2 or 8 octets.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.3: We changed "The maximum number of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PCPs 8"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to "The maximum number of PCPs is 8". If this is incorrect, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clarify the text.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The maximum number of PCPs 8.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The maximum number of PCPs is 8. -->
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don] This is correct.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 13) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.3: Is "either PCP" correct here? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Earlier text indicates
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that there can be up to 8 PCPs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note that zero (0) is a valid value for either PCP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note that zero (0) is a valid value for PCP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don] This is correct removing either.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 14) <!-- [rfced] We found the following two comments in the XML 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> May we remove them?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First comment:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Both the router and the modem need to support this document,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DLEP Traffic Classification, and DLEP Credit Flow Control,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <xref target="I-D.ietf-manet-dlep-credit-flow-control" 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> format="default"/>.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second comment:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This document requests the assignment of several values by IANA. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assignments are to registries defined by <xref target="RFC8175"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> format="default"/>. -->
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don] Yes please remove.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 15) <!-- [rfced] Section 4: We had trouble following "some 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> references to external documents listed below" in this paragraph.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It appears that "external documents" is intended to refer to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [BCP195], [IEEE-802.1AE], and [IEEE-8802-1X].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, we see that [RFC8175] cites [IEEE-802.1X] ("IEEE 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Standards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for Local and metropolitan area networks-Port-Based Network 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Access
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Control"), but this document cites [IEEE-8802-1X] ("IEEE/ISO/IEC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> International Standard-Telecommunications and exchange between
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information technology systems-Requirements for local and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> metropolitan area networks-Part 1X:Port-based network access
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control").
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> May we update as suggested? If not, please clarify the text.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The transport layer security mechanisms documented in [RFC8175], 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some updated references to external documents listed below, can 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> applied to this document.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suggested:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The transport layer security mechanisms documented in [RFC8175],
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> along with the latest versions of [BCP195], [IEEE-802.1AE], and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [IEEE-8802-1X] at the time of this writing, can be applied to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> document. -->
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don] Yes accepted Suggested but the IEEE-8802-1X is the ISO 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version of IEEE-802.1X
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9650828
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we should use the IEEE version change IEEE-8802-1X to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IEEE-802.1X.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 16) <!-- [rfced] Below are some specific questions relating to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IANA text in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Section 5.2 of the document.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a) FYI - To improve clarity, we added a new table (current Table 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) to show
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the registration policies and adjusted the original table 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (current Table 3) to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> show only the initial contents of the registry.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don] Good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> b) In the current Table 3, which shows the initial values of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new registry,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [RFC2474] and [IEEE8021Q] are listed as references. Should this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> document be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listed as a reference instead of or in addition to [RFC2474] and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [IEEE8021Q]?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It seems that this document defines the Diffserv Traffic 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Classification in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Section 2.2 and the Ethernet Traffic Classification in Section 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.3. Please
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> review and let us know if any updates are needed. If needed, we 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will ask IANA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to update the "Traffic Classification Sub-Data Item Type Values" 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> registry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prior to publication.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don] The table referencing [RFC2474] and [IEEE8021Q] is correct 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for Type code 1 and Type code 2 respectively.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No need to add this document as reference - it is there for the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole table.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Link to registry:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.iana.org/assignments/dlep-parameters/dlep-parameters.xhtml#traffic-classification-sub-data-item-type-values>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> c) Related to the question above, the first two sentences below 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directly indicate that this document defines the two new 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sub-Data Items in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sections 2.2 and 2.3, but the third sentence does. Should any of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sentences be updated?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This document also introduces DLEP Sub-Data Items, and Sub-Data 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Items are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defined to support DiffServ and Ethernet traffic classification.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This document defines support for traffic classification using a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single new Data Item in Section 2.1 for general support and two 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sub-Data Items are defined to support identification of flows 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on DSCPs and PCPs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don] This is good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This document defines traffic classification based on a DLEP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> destination and flows identified by either DiffServ [RFC2475]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Differentiated Services Codepoints (DSCPs) or IEEE 802.1Q 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [IEEE8021Q]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ethernet Priority Code Points (PCPs).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps (updates to first two sentences to indicate that this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> document defines
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the two Sub-Data Items; not changes to third sentence):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This document also introduces DLEP Sub-Data Items and defines 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sub-Data Items to support Diffserv and Ethernet traffic 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> classification.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This document defines support for traffic classification using a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single new Data Item (see Section 2.1) for general support and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defines two new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sub-Data Items to support identification of flows based
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on DSCPs and PCPs (see Sections 2.2 and 2.3).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don] This is good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This document defines traffic classification based on a DLEP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> destination and flows identified by either Diffserv [RFC2475]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Differentiated Services Codepoints (DSCPs) or IEEE 802.1Q 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [IEEE8021Q]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ethernet Priority Code Points (PCPs).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d) May we combine the first paragraph after the current Table 3 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paragraph of Section 5.2 as follows? Also, would it be helpful 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to separate the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text after the current Table 3 into a new section so future 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documents can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easily refer to the guidance? Last, we suggest including 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Specification Required"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in this text as the guidance only applies to registrations with 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that policy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This section provides guidance to the Internet Assigned Numbers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Authority (IANA) regarding registration of values related to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Traffic Classification Sub-Data Item Type Values registry for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DLEP protocol, in accordance with BCP 26 and [RFC8126].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To simplify future registrations, it is recommended that this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guidance serves as a standard reference for all DLEP-related
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> registries. Future specifications may include a header note 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pointing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to this guidance document.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5.3. Registration Guidance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This section provides guidance for registrations in the "Traffic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Classification Sub-Data Item Type Values" registry. To simplify 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> registrations in DLEP-related registries, it is recommended that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guidance in this section apply to all registries within the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dynamic Link
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exchange Protocol (DLEP) Parameters" registry group that use the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Specification Required" policy [RFC8126]. Future specifications
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> may point to the guidance in this document.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don] This update is good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e) Please clarify "two specific registries" here. Is the intent 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "two specific
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entries" (i.e., 1 for Diffserv Traffic Classification and 2 for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ethernet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Traffic Classification)?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original (the previous sentence included for context):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This registry encompasses packet traffic classification, where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> standard packet header identifiers in packets or data frames 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indicate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quality of Service (QoS) treatment. It includes two specific
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> registries for widely recognized identifiers used in QoS 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> management
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for IP and Ethernet networks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This registry encompasses packet traffic classification, where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> standard packet header identifiers in packets or data frames 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indicate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quality of Service (QoS) treatment. It includes two specific
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entries for widely recognized identifiers used in QoS management
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for IP and Ethernet networks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don] This is good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 17) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> online Style Guide at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and let us know if any changes are needed. Updates of this nature
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> typically result in more precise language, which is helpful for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> readers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should still be reviewed as a best practice. -->
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 18) <!-- [rfced] Please let us know if any changes are needed 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a) The following term was used inconsistently in this document.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We chose to use the latter form. Please let us know any 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> objections.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> data item (1 instance) / Data Item (e.g., "the data item",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "the Data Item") (per the rest of this document and per this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> group (cluster) of documents)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don] Good thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> b) The following terms appear to be used inconsistently in this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> document. Please let us know which form is preferred.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> priority field / Priority field / Priority Field
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (e.g., "priority fields", "Priority fields",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Each Priority Field is", "each Priority field is")
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Item Types / Item types (e.g., "Traffic Classification Sub-Data 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Item
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Types", "Traffic Classification Sub-Data Item types")
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Num PCPs (1 instance) / NumPCPs (4 instances)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (We also see "Num DSCPs" and "Num SDIs".)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the individual Sub-Data Item / the individual Sub-Data Items -->
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Don] Good Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lynne Bartholomew and Rebecca VanRheenen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RFC Production Center
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2025, at 1:54 PM, [email protected] wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RFC9892 (draft-ietf-manet-dlep-traffic-classification-17)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Title : Dynamic Link Exchange Protocol (DLEP) Traffic 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Classification Data Item
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Author(s) : B. Cheng, D. Wiggins, L. Berger, D. Fedyk, Ed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WG Chair(s) : Don Fedyk, Ronald in 't Velt, Donald E. Eastlake 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3rd
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Velde
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