Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
Gary,
Regardless of the merits of your case, *someone* would have to do all the things that need to be done. Choose a DTD, modify it as needed, configure whatever needs configuing, set everything up to work smoothly, and then actually produce output in needed formats from the source files. Are you volunteering?

And even if someone sets all this up and is willing and able to do the work in producing output, what happens when that person is not available? Everything comes to a screeching halt, or goes on hold for a long time until someone can find the time to catch up. That's a major bottleneck.

If the original source files are in .odt, then anyone can carry on as we are doing now. Not ideal, but low-barrier, no-cost, no outside programs to learn, no specialist knowledge required. No distraction from producing CONTENT. Easy to make a PDF. Easy (if tedious) to put the same info on the wiki. No drama.

If your proposal (for multiple outputs) can be grafted on to that minimalist base, AND you or someone will actually do it, that's cool. Go for it.

--Jean
Be advised that I did not bring up any issue of using DocBook XML authoring, template creation, or editing. I just noted that the DocBook plug-in of Writer was designed for version 4.1.2 during 2003 and were never fully implemented. And any documentation of its use is somewhat esoteric.

Usually, structured authoring is done by larger organizations (governmental units or their contractors, businesses with large amounts of data, documents, etc.) that want to maintain and dispense their data or documents systematically. Also smaller organization use it too, if they desire uniformity with their documentation. Having structure makes it easier to create and maintain their data, so that if somebody leaves, another could step it and take over from there.

The conventional non-XML systems at many nonstructured organizations can be somewhat byzantine because few other than those at the very top of the documentation food-chain might be aware of what others are doing. In addition, they could prefer one format over others, so that it may be very difficult to employ multiple differing formats simultaneously.

No dig at any particular organization, BTW. What makes XML attractive is that the data and documents that are stored in XML can be readily adapted to various disparate output formats more automatically once the appropriate templates are created to employ whatever of the XML data the medium needs. XML-based publishing could be considered as residing at the other end of a spectrum that has manual-override writing/editing at its other pole. More structure and less chaos.

One particular nice feature of FrameMaker is employing conversion tables for importing a conventional FrameMaker document using formatting tags (or an imported MS Word or even a OOo Writer file saved as DOC--using paragraph and character styles) and eventually imparting structure from them into a structured FrameMaker document. The DocBook elements can be assigned to the appropriate paragraph and character styles in the original document and the various table, and graphic elements are also assigned to DocBook elements.

After a number of iterations in fine-tuning the conversion table, suitable renderings of DocBook XML is then applied to those original documents. The better the conversion table is "programmed," the more closely the original documents of similar styles can be converted into DocBook, somewhat automatically. And eventually formatted, if desired.


Gary

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