Peter, >and I would love to get that working with Catalina. >
<fx>ducks</fx> I have just asked them to seperate into interface and impl again. By accident some of the Catalina "interface" code imports and uses impl code. For good reasons in the 4.0.x series they do not want to fix that. They *might* be willing to seperate all the interfaces and accidentally depended on packages/classes to a catalina-interface.jar and leave the rest in catalina-impl.jar. Fingers crossed, when it happens it might rejuvenate 'bay'.... wanna take it over? Regards, - Paul H -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>