Peter,

>and I would love to get that working with Catalina.
>

<fx>ducks</fx>  I have just asked them to seperate into interface and 
impl again.  By accident some of the Catalina "interface" code imports 
and uses impl code.  For good reasons in the 4.0.x series they do not 
want to fix that.  They *might* be willing to seperate all the 
interfaces and accidentally depended on packages/classes to a 
catalina-interface.jar and leave the rest in catalina-impl.jar.  Fingers 
crossed, when it happens it might rejuvenate 'bay'.... wanna take it over?

Regards,

- Paul H


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