> -----Original Message-----
> From: Berin Loritsch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 1:43 PM
> To: Avalon Developers List
> Subject: Re: Plans for future
> 
> 
> Scott Sanders wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 09:29:12PM +1100, Peter Donald wrote:
> > 
> >>On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 05:07, Berin Loritsch wrote:
> >>
> >>>I am satisfied with the current releases of the three subprojects 
> >>>Framework, Excalibur, and LogKit.  I would like to start 
> discussions 
> >>>on what is necessary to have a Beta release of both 
> Cornerstone and 
> >>>Phoenix.
> >>>
> >>Phoenix is almost Beta quality at the moment. There is a few things 
> >>that I
> >>need to add such as ClassLoader management, improved 
> deployment and a few 
> >>unit tests for the tools package. This will prolly take 
> about 2 lazy Sunday 
> >>afternoons. 
> >>
> >>However the real thing that is holding us back is the complete and 
> >>utter lack
> >>of a decent management console. I can quite easily add new 
> MBeans for the 
> >>serverside half of the management interface and refactor 
> things on that end 
> >>to make it nice and clean. However to do that I need some 
> testing in a real 
> >>environment and this is currently not possible because no 
> one has written a 
> >>frontend. Unfortunately I am really bad at writing that bit 
> ... every time I 
> >>start on it I end up finding excuses to play with other things ;)
> >>
> > 
> > What do you mean by front-end?  Web something?  Telnet?  I 
> am looking 
> > at Avalon, and have done both of these before, so I can 
> take a look at 
> > it.
> > 
> > Scott Sanders
> 
> 
> He is talking about a GUI console so that administration of 
> the server is more friendly.
> 

If it is GUI, then I am in the same boat.  I am no good in Swing or AWT,
but I could do something in Delphi or C#, but I would assume that Swing
is what you want.

Scott

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