On Sat, 2002-06-15 at 17:12, Berin Loritsch wrote:
> I find the logger package to be pretty decent.  However, there are a few
> things
> to consider:
> 
> 1) Instead of having many different logging abstractions, what about
> using
>    Commons Logging (ducks and hides)?

+0. Would be cool but what we have is extremely stable so I have no
*need* to change.

Also, dependency would be like this

Avalon LogKit <--loose-- commons logging <-- Avalon Framework

Which is cool, just something to keep in mind.

> 2) If we maintain our own, what about a "TRACE" logging level.  It is
> useful
>    debugging information that is not necessary for all debugging
> excercises.
>    Some bugs are only found by tracing through, so a message when
> entering
>    a method or exiting a method can be helpful.  Esp. if your Java
> debugger
>    is effectively broken (happens more often than I care to mention).

eh? You mean you want to put trace() statements in your code for the
lack of a good debugger?

-1. Get a good debugger, I'd say. Tracing is a separate concern from
logging.

- Leo



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