> > From: Leo Simons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > 
> > -1. Get a good debugger, I'd say. Tracing is a separate 
> > concern from logging.
> 
> I disagree and put in a +1. Sometimes you can only get the data you 
> need by running the system in production mode and trying to grab as much
> as you can from the logs. (The debugger changes the execution
> environment
> too much.)
> 
> If Robert Mouat's idea - use dynamic proxies for the tracing - works
> we can get this basically for free.

+1 on that one, too. I'm perfectly fine with debugging "transparant" for
components, especially when dynamic. I thought the proposal here was
about having trace() inside component methods (which should be
discouraged, as that'll be far from free).

cheers,

- Leo



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