On Friday, October 18, 2002, at 04:35  AM, Leo Simons wrote:
I've ben reading [EMAIL PROTECTED] For one, it seems we might be getting
sourcecast, which is cool. There is also talk of larger-scale reorg
(like moving projects out of jakarta all the way to the top
conceptually), which are also especially relevant to avalon as it is a
kind of 'uber-project'.
thanks for bringing this up here. the discussion on the reorg list has been increasing at a dizzying rate!

Question rizes: do current avalon committers and contributors like the
size and scope of the avalon project?
its okay (ie kinda-world). more manageable chunks would be excellent though.

I know some of us (me, pete, for starters) feel actually splitting
avalon into multiple pieces would be good. This is a quick poll to
figure out how broad the support for this is =)
+1

My concern is with excalibur. Yes, there is a LOT of stuff in there that should be in a commons. I believe the jakarta-commons has, in the past, rejected the notion of having the avalon-framework jar in their cvs or tied to one of the commons projects (with the notion of wanting commons projects to be dependency free, but that seems to have fallen by the wayside somewhat now since everyone wants logging :)

along with probably different cvs repos, voting/access rights, web
pages, PMCs, etc.
a "real" PMC, more akin to httpd than jakarta's...

but we'd maybe still keep the current mailing lists, ie not completely
dissolve the community. We might even end up with
[EMAIL PROTECTED], if I understand correctly the
proposals on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
yup, that is one of the proposals.. "if you won't cooperate, at least share the same playground".
-pete
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