Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:

Berin Loritsch wrote:

From: Nicola Ken Barozzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

I propose that we switch to a single avalon-dev and avalon-user mailing list.

It enables us to follow better all that is happening in avalon-land, and is much more important now that we are working on a unified vision.

Please cast your votes (on [EMAIL PROTECTED]):

mine: +1



-1  We separated the mailing lists for a reason.  The user
questions will get lost in all of the development threads,
and the user won't get the answers they want.  With separate
threads, we can properly support our users while we are
embroiled in the design for Avalon 5 with ref. container.

Careful, Nicola used very bad wording: hs is not proposing to unify *all* mail lists into one, he's proposing that we merge all development mail lists into one and all users mail list into one and result in just a single community of developers and a single community of users.

I see *great* value on this proposal as the first *real* step in doing something to force people to collaborate.

Right now, with the excuse of caring about his users, phoenix is effectively implementing stuff that is not decided by the avalon community. This means that the avalon PMC has no legal oversight on what's happening there. This is a serious concern. Bringing communities back together might slow down things a little on phoenix land but it is definately a good thing for Avalon in general.

And this is why I voted +1

Good summary.

Its why I voted +1 as well - the community takes precedence over product.

Cheers, Steve.

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