> From: Stefano Mazzocchi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> 
> Berin Loritsch wrote:
> >>From: Nicola Ken Barozzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>
> >>I propose that we switch to a single avalon-dev and 
> >>avalon-user mailing 
> >>list.
> >>
> >>It enables us to follow better all that is happening in 
> >>avalon-land, and 
> >>is much more important now that we are working on a unified vision.
> >>
> >>Please cast your votes (on [EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> >>
> >>mine: +1
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -1  We separated the mailing lists for a reason.  The user
> > questions will get lost in all of the development threads,
> > and the user won't get the answers they want.  With separate
> > threads, we can properly support our users while we are
> > embroiled in the design for Avalon 5 with ref. container.
> 
> Careful, Nicola used very bad wording: hs is not proposing to unify 
> *all* mail lists into one, he's proposing that we merge all 
> development 
> mail lists into one and all users mail list into one and 
> result in just 
> a single community of developers and a single community of users.
> 
> I see *great* value on this proposal as the first *real* step 
> in doing 
> something to force people to collaborate.
> 
> Right now, with the excuse of caring about his users, phoenix is 
> effectively implementing stuff that is not decided by the avalon 
> community. This means that the avalon PMC has no legal oversight on 
> what's happening there. This is a serious concern. Bringing 
> communities 
> back together might slow down things a little on phoenix land 
> but it is 
> definately a good thing for Avalon in general.
> 
> And this is why I voted +1

And why *after* he clarified what he meant to do, I also
reverted my -1 and made it +1.

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