In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Peter Donald"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>...
> There some like me who can no longer contribute. I am still not really
> clear on why my cvs access was removed - however it was and is unlikely
> to be returned.

You have exchanged numerous (private) emails on the subject with Sam. If
he has not been able to explain, then I would recommend that you talk to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] rather than an individual. As a group, it may be easier
to find the right explanations. board@ is readable by all ASF members,
however; if that makes you uncomfortable, then please email me and I'll
let tell you the private list for just the Board members and we can
discuss on that list.

All that said, as others on this list have noted: the proper forum is with
the Board rather than here.

> It seems like Nicola has decided that I no longer have other rights such
> as voting rights.

Nicola didn't decide that. The Board did when it suspended your commit
privileges. Nicola *did* ask for clarification on whether that also meant
a suspension of *binding* votes, and we responded "yes." Nicola is just
the messenger.

Hell, Nicola is just another Avalon guy. He should not presume any
distinction, and others should not impose any distinction on him. The
Board sees him differently, but that shouldn't "bleed through" to the
community.

But honestly: whether your votes are binding or non-binding has *very*
little relevance at this point in time. "Why?" you might ask... the simple
answer is that +1/+0/-0/-1 voting should only be a quick way to express an
opinion. If you have to count them, then you don't have consensus.
Further, I think the issues that need voting on right now are unrelated to
the code itself, but mostly procedural type things. The code is the only
thing that requires binding votes because in this sense, "binding" means
the PMC members who are responsible for that code. If you're not voting on
*code* then binding votes have less importance. To get really technical,
what it means is the PMC is getting a feeling of the community and
(presumably) agreeing with and carrying out those actions. Yes, the PMC
could theoretically ignore the community and the non-binding votes that
occurred, but that would be rather ludicrous.

Cheers,
-g

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