At 10:01 PM 2/20/03 +0100, Zdenek Kabelac wrote: [...]
I am inclined to agree. I'm sure this is why the suggested patch came with instructions about using g++-2.95 to compile it.I've checked vcr code - and it would be most probably nigthmare to fix this for gcc-3.2 compliance.
> use of deprecated calls before it fails). But the combination of seeing allI'm not sure what you mean by "somewhat senseless". TV grabs are useful for capturing things that are on TV but not on DVD (like current episodes of any TV show, and some of the stuff on TVLand, and some old films like King Kong, which are sometimes broadcast but not available on DVD) ... but this is really a matter of taste in entertainment, not a technical question. So perhaps we can simply agree that there are reasons to want to do both sorts of encodings (TV caps and DVD rips).
> the problems associated with the avm:: namespace (which has changed a lot,
> at least in form) and the reported bug in libqavm makes me hope that some
> slements of the problem exist, and hence can be fixed, on the libaviplay
Would be probably much easire to check avirec - and
report problem you will find with this program
(as I've considered that doing TV grabs is somewhat senseless compared
with DVD rips)
As to my problem with avirec, it is that it has no documentation beyond what "avirec -h" lists, and that's not enough to get me started. I can't figure out from this minimalist guidance how it is *supposed* to work. I quoted below an attempt to provide enough in the way of command-line switches to get it to do a test recording ... and it did nothing. A minor variant
avirec -c "DivX ;-) Fast-Motion" -t 2m test.avi
just sits there, neither closing nor actually running (according to "ps ax", it is immediately suspended). So may I turn this around ... what is an example of an avirec command that should work to record, say, 2 minutes of video from a bttv-based card that is tuned to a working channel (say through a prior use of xawtv)?
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I've used it (Fast Motion) with vcr for a year now and find it much better than Low Motion ... I can even get passable caps of Fred Astaire dancing and excellent ones of Jamie Oliver zipping around his kitchen. But again we are in the realm of personal taste ... unless you mean to suggest that my use of this codec causes avirec to fail to capture *anything*.> maryann:~# avirec -c "DivX ;-) Fast-Motion" -n ntsc > > (The codec is the one I use day-in-day-out with vcr, through your WIN32 > plugin, and it is listed in the output of "avirec -l".)I would have rather suggest to use Xvid or LowMotions - the Fast-Motion creates to big 'blocks'
I'm afraid I have to agree with you. It's unfortunate because I at least found it (and continue to find it, on my old, non-upgraded system) an excellent UI to libavifile's capabilities.I'll try to play with it over the weekend a bit and fix some most outstanding bugs. I would have considered vcr rather as a dead project.
Relative to avirec, I'd say vcr is superior in these ways:
it uses a config file, so you don't have to supply CL switches every time for every non-default setting
if integrates channel selection (using an xawtv-style channel list)
it actually works when run the way its man page says to
it has a man page
Yes, there are several alternatives ... mainly mencoder and whatever MythTV uses behind the curtain (NuppelVideo, maybe?).Anothing thing worth to try: - mencoder could also be used for TV grabbing. They have far more developers - so I would have expected they should be giving much better results...
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