So the weekend resulted in no code being written, mostly ended up
having to fix some stuff in the house I was behind on due to all the
travel :-/ I did manage to get Windows reinstalled on the machine I
was using to create binaries (it suffered a hard drive failure a month
or two back - new, bigger hard drive too). I will have some time to
actually work on this in the coming days though, apologies on the
delay - I hadn't factored in spending so much time on real life
stuff...

Marcus

On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Marcus D. Hanwell
<marcus.hanw...@kitware.com> wrote:
> Hi Geoff,
>
> Sorry, crazy travel schedule, so didn't get this finished as soon as I
> had hoped. I am working on some changes to make the conversion much
> simpler, and to alleviate the UI issue. As I said at the time -
> totally agree, and not pushing to keep the current UI. I think it was
> a necessary step as I fleshed it out, but hope to make this much
> smoother.
>
> I think any of the edit functionality can convert to an editable
> molecule, they use implicitly shared arrays and so the copy cost is
> minimal with only the coordinates triggering a real copy when the
> forcefield kicks in. I would love to see what you are thinking for the
> auto-optimize, I just spent a few days at Daresbury Lab last week
> talking about some of these features (along with QMMM, how we might
> define regions, residues, etc).
>
> Let me see what I can get done on the weekend to make it clearer, and
> sketch out what I thought would work. Happy to iterate on this, and
> yes it is better to put more of these discussions on the mailing list.
> Measurement is a tool that I think we make work with edit and view
> molecules to be honest - so no need to switch at all.
>
> Marcus
>
> On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 10:44 PM, Geoffrey Hutchison
> <geoff.hutchi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Marcus,
>>
>> I wanted to follow-up about an off-list discussion with Avogadro v2. Between 
>> v0.7, and the current git master (0.8?) there's now a clear UI division 
>> between "edit" and "view" molecules.
>>
>> Can you outline some of the real reasons for this behind the scenes, 
>> particularly on the UI side? I think this is currently a usability nightmare 
>> and I'd like to make sure we can work past this or write up conversion code 
>> that allows tools, extensions, etc. to convert back and forth.
>>
>> My big use-case concern is the Auto Optimize tool, which I'm trying to 
>> design for Avogadro v2's very different architecture. For example, let's say 
>> a user wants to set a measurement between two atoms (view). Then they switch 
>> to the Auto Optimize tool (edit) and start pushing atoms around.
>>
>> In Avogadro v1, this wasn't a problem. The measurements would update while 
>> the optimization occurred in a different thread.
>>
>> How can this work in Avogadro v2?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Geoff

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