I am also feel, If we use -1 on *non vote* threads it has the effect
of drying out the conversation. I personally use 0- to say, "I do not
like sound of it". But on vote threads if one do not like it, they
have to use -1 and say so where it does not Veto.

I know there was a time we saw -1 less often, may be we were not have
enough close conversations. Anyway I do  not want to see -1 start
flying on everything.

my two cents
Thanks
Srinath

On 6/16/07, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Sanjiva,

I really don't want to pick on any instance in particular. IMHO, you
get better bang for the buck (at least with me!) if you just state you
don't like something and we'll work together to make it better. I
guess it's a cultural issue as well (with me!). So if more people
would like to see more -1's. who am i to say something...let the -1's
fly! I personally can't understand why wielding the club is more
efficient when a fly swatter will do. You will not hear me crib about
-1's again if that's the consensus which i think it has now become.
IMHO, -1's just stop the discussion in its tracks and it's rampant use
is an unhealthy sign in my opinion. Guess, i have to get used to it.

thanks,
dims

On 6/16/07, Sanjiva Weerawarana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> +1 .. I don't understand why -1 is a bad thing either. If someone doesn't
> like a code change and vetos it with a -1 and gives an explanation then
> there's nothing wrong with that.
>
> Dims can you explain what aspect of the -1 (and give examples) that is
> problematical?
>
> Sanjiva.
>
> Glen Daniels wrote:
> > Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> >> *PLEASE* stop abusing -1's. it's being used left, right, center and
> >> totally losing its meaning.
> >
> > -1  :) :)  (you didn't really expect me to resist that one did you?)
> >
> > Seriously, though - isn't -1 still totally dependent on context?  I.e.
> > it's a veto for code changes, it's a no vote for VOTEs, it's an "I'd
> > rather not" for release votes, it's a dessert topping....
> >
> > It seems to me as long as everyone is respecting others, voting
> > appropriately, and following the actual rules for real process issues,
> > it's not *that* big a deal.  Has this come up in other projects that
> > you've been involved with too, dims?
> >
> > --Glen
> >
> > P.S.  Welcome back!
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