I should kick myself for not reading Axis2 mail frequently. I just spent 20 minutes reading the complete thread and just throwing my 2 cents.
1. I am +1 (not a vote, a token of agreement) on making Axis2 a TLP. I have supported the decision in the PMC and I am still in support for it. As Deepal says I don't understand why people are so much worried about making Axis2 a TLP. We have kept all the major components as subprojects so far and what difference would it make if we house them in a different place ? 2. I have to agree to Dims that we have not been active as usual. There are open Jira's and I haven't had time to fix the few things that are pending in my niche projects (XMLSchema and tcpmon) let alone in Axis2. However I personally feel that it would be easier to do a better job (better than being done right now) if the teams are small and focused rather than generic and all over the place. Again the volume and the size clearly warrants a break just for the ease of management. Mind you - it would not automatically fix the problem - the site would not get fixed by magic and the Jiras would not vanish. However it may make it easier to do so. For the sake of the argument if a disgruntled user goes on commenting about Axis2 he would be shooting at the ws pmc. But the WS pmc consists of many other innocent PMCers that have nothing to do with Axis2! if we have clear separation then the responsibilities are clear. 3. I've been told that (before my time in Apache) that it is discouraged to put projects in an umbrella of functionality, say like in ws* or xml*. Instead Apache has embraced the related-or-not-related-but-interesting type of project names with 'projects' and not umbrellas. Just to make it clear does the words jackrabbit, lucene, synapse, Mina or Lenya make any hint of what the project actually does ? So i don't see the point of keeping Axis2 under the umbrella of ws* anymore. if the ws* argument to hold I would say all other Apache projects that provide the SOAP stack capability should come under ws* as well (such as CXF) 4. I don't suppose there is anyone with a secret (evil ;P) agenda of becoming the member of two PMC's supporting the split. But as I pointed out earlier ws has grown out of its bounds and its time we split things up for the sake of managing the complexity. Who we put as the chair is a different question and hopefully would be selected the democratic way (or by just looking at the mail count :D) For my final conclusion I am in support of this proposal. Ajith On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Though given Paul's and other people's response. > > Dims, my response was a light-hearted comment on the situation, and > made no reference to whether or not Axis2 should be a TLP. I'm sorry > if you took it in a way it wasn't meant to be taken, but I certainly > wasn't making any comment against the proposal. I am in favour of > making Axis2 a TLP, and I'm surprised if anything I have said led you > or anyone else to think otherwise. > > Paul > > -- > Paul Fremantle > Co-Founder and CTO, WSO2 > Apache Synapse PMC Chair > OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair > > blog: http://pzf.fremantle.org > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Ajith Ranabahu Reading, after a certain age, diverts the mind too much from its creative pursuits. Any man who reads too much and uses his own brain too little falls into lazy habits of thinking - Albert Einstein --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
