Sam: "Long term, I'd love to see a WebServices project parallel to Jakarta and XML."
+1. I think that we could very easily see an Apache Web Services project that contained a number of subprojects. Specifically, I could imagine that much of the Axis functionality could be broken up into subprojects: 1) a lightweight soap parser, 2) a chaining/pipeline/dispatch framework, 3) jax-rpc client and server implementation, 4) jaxm client and server implementation, 5) wsif, 6) common code library. I think we'd actually get a lot more done faster if we broke this up a bit more. Regarding WSIF, one key advantage that incorporating WSIF into Axis would be that it would finally help to realize the original Axis goal of having a non-soap specific message API. The SAX-based SOAP parser would be implemented under the WSIF Message API which is designed completely around a WSDL view of the world (e.g. messages with parts). IMHO, this is a very important goal. Ok, returning to silent mode now.... - James M Snell/Fresno/IBM Web services architecture and strategy Internet Emerging Technologies, IBM 544.9035 TIE line 559.587.1233 Office 919.486.0077 Voice Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Programming Web Services With SOAP, O'reilly & Associates, ISBN 0596000952 == Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be terrified, do not be discouraged, for the Lord your God will be with you wherever you go. - Joshua 1:9 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: Proposed Contribution to Apache - WSIF Glyn Normington wrote: > > Assuming Apache want to take WSIF, I think it would be helpful if you could > briefly summarise, for the benefit of axis-dev, the relationship between > WSIF and Axis to help decide whether WSIF should be included in Axis or > made into a separate xml.apache.org project. I had suggested that Paul NOT do this. I have seen too many proposals get mired up in discussions because the person who made the submission expressed an opinion about the project structure before being perceived as a part of the team. Long term, I'd love to see a WebServices project parallel to Jakarta and XML. - Sam Ruby