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> -----Original Message----- > From: easter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 6:58 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: So how do non-Microsoft people consume web services? > > > I was specifically asking about IDE support for ws's. > We're are the same state now as we were years back in the > beginning of html. > Back then, you edited it by hand, these days, very little need to code > directly in html. > Similarly for ws. We currently need to write by hand wsdl and stubs and > wsdl2java and java2wsdl and then > all the code, all that unnecesary complication. > But already wsdl editors such as that by Capeclear are making the > process a lot easier, hiding all the > unneccesary complicated details. > Similarly, some IDE's such as Micro$oft VB allows you to plug directly > into a UDDI registry to browse for > web services, and then just drag and drop them onto your application. > Eventually most IDE's will support this, much in the same way as Borland > Delphi 's much copied interface > for constructing GUI applications. > > I was just wondering if we're anywhere near that stage yet, and > apparently the answer is NO. > Microsoft is way ahead on this one, but I'm sure we'll soon see some > decent Forte and SunONE tools > coming out, and hopefully also in tools like Netbeans and Eclipse. > So for the moment I'll have to stick to Xemacs and WSIF! > > :( > > Hope this helps understand the question. > > WH > Mike Spreitzer wrote: > > >Can anyone please help me understand the original request here? > Axis has > >WSDL2Java; after using that, I have an ordinary Java development > problem. > >Why isn't this the answer? > > > >Feeling dense today, > >Mike > > > > > > > > > >