xmlBus from iona also have a very complete set of tools for the Automation of wsdl/uddi etc jim
-----Original Message----- From: easter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 December 2002 11:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: So how do non-Microsoft people consume web services? I was specifically asking about IDE support for ws's. We're are the same state now as we were years back in the beginning of html. Back then, you edited it by hand, these days, very little need to code directly in html. Similarly for ws. We currently need to write by hand wsdl and stubs and wsdl2java and java2wsdl and then all the code, all that unnecesary complication. But already wsdl editors such as that by Capeclear are making the process a lot easier, hiding all the unneccesary complicated details. Similarly, some IDE's such as Micro$oft VB allows you to plug directly into a UDDI registry to browse for web services, and then just drag and drop them onto your application. Eventually most IDE's will support this, much in the same way as Borland Delphi 's much copied interface for constructing GUI applications. I was just wondering if we're anywhere near that stage yet, and apparently the answer is NO. Microsoft is way ahead on this one, but I'm sure we'll soon see some decent Forte and SunONE tools coming out, and hopefully also in tools like Netbeans and Eclipse. So for the moment I'll have to stick to Xemacs and WSIF! :( Hope this helps understand the question. WH Mike Spreitzer wrote: >Can anyone please help me understand the original request here? Axis has >WSDL2Java; after using that, I have an ordinary Java development problem. >Why isn't this the answer? > >Feeling dense today, >Mike > > > >