Ricky,

Being new to all of this, it's been great help so far already!
I've been trying to evaluate the available standards to see what I need
to work with on this module. And from what I've been reading over the
last month or so, I'd narrowed down to SAML and WS-Security on the basis
that they work well together and they're very popular. 
It'd just been a week since I'd heard about XACML (duh!) and I must
admit it had me all confused! :-) thx for helpin me out there!
Ok so you've told me about what SAML does (and I guess I can use
OpenSAML APIs for development there) but what about WS-Security? Does
embedding SAML assertions into the SOAP Security Header within the
<wsse:Security> tag complete the picture?
Also, how does JAAS compare to all of these standards in authorization?
Where would it fit in?

Lotsa questions there! :-(

Regards,
Nisha 


-----Original Message-----
From: Ricky Ho [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 10:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Authorization using WS security and SAML


SAML is about specifying the XML format of your authorization decision 
outcome (authorization assertion).  It also defines a protocol how to 
request the assertion.  SAML doesn't describe how the decision should be

made.  XACML is attempting to standardize how such decision rules should
be 
specified.  So it is completely solving an orthogonal problem.

I'm not sure how important to standardize decision making rules because 
there is NO "inter-operability" requirement for that.  There is NO need
to 
communicating how I made my decision to my business partners.  The value
of 
XACML is "portability" of my decision criteria across multiple vendor 
products.  However, "portability" has never been a goal for any XML 
standard.  It is arguable how important XACML will be.

Best regards,
ricky

At 06:38 PM 3/16/2003 +0530, Nisha Menon wrote:
>hi,
>
>i am trying to create an authorization module for web services that is
>independant of the application and to authorize i've chosen to use 
>WS-Security and SAML.
>would anyone on this list be familiar with similar implementation? or
have 
>any references for the same?
>also, how does XACML compare to SAML?
>
>thank you,
>
>nisha
>
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