> If the invariant condition here is "the menu goes with the 
> title and controls", than it really would seem more consistent to have the 
> menu-bar in/near the title-bar for non-maximized windows, whether as a 
> traditional menubar, a menu-bar-in-titlebar, or a menu button. 

I don't feel like that is the case. Instead, the condition is that the menu bar 
is always in the panel. The Menu is always in the exact same place, which is 
how it really should be. The window controls are only in the panel for 
maximized windows, so they vary more than the menu does. 

On 03/29/11 09:15:20, ayatana@lists.launchpad.net wrote:
>    On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 08:16, Saleel Velankar 
> <[1]svela...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
>      The global-menubar fails for these reasons. 
>      1. Confusion on which application the menu is for. 
>      2. Having to move the mouse an obscene amount 
> 
>    3. Â Breaking focus-follows-mouse. 
>    Maybe this is just another inconsistency. To me it seems like 
> when the window is maximized, we want the "window titlebar", with its 
> controls and title, to be *inside* the panel, and that's also where we're 
> putting the menu. If the invariant condition here is "the menu goes with the 
> title and controls", than it really would seem more consistent to have the 
> menu-bar in/near the title-bar for non-maximized windows, whether as a 
> traditional menubar, a menu-bar-in-titlebar, or a menu button. Each has some 
> advantages and disadvantages. 
>    Â 
> 
>    -- 
> 
>    Jeremy Nickurak -= Email/XMPP: -= [2]jer...@nickurak.ca =- 
> 
>    --0016369f9b18b48439049fa0789a-- 
> 
> References 
> 
>    1. mailto:svela...@gmail.com 
>    2. mailto:jer...@nickurak.ca 
> 


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