If the menu being in the exact same place is "how it should be" then why not 
have Maximize/Minimize/Close up there the whole time too?

> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 15:20:54 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Ayatana] What to do with the menubar on non-full screened       
> windows.
> 
> > If the invariant condition here is "the menu goes with the 
> > title and controls", than it really would seem more consistent to have the 
> > menu-bar in/near the title-bar for non-maximized windows, whether as a 
> > traditional menubar, a menu-bar-in-titlebar, or a menu button. 
> 
> I don't feel like that is the case. Instead, the condition is that the menu 
> bar is always in the panel. The Menu is always in the exact same place, which 
> is how it really should be. The window controls are only in the panel for 
> maximized windows, so they vary more than the menu does. 
> 
> On 03/29/11 09:15:20, [email protected] wrote:
> >    On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 08:16, Saleel Velankar 
> > <[1][email protected]> wrote: 
> > 
> >      The global-menubar fails for these reasons. 
> >      1. Confusion on which application the menu is for. 
> >      2. Having to move the mouse an obscene amount 
> > 
> >    3. Â Breaking focus-follows-mouse. 
> >    Maybe this is just another inconsistency. To me it seems like 
> > when the window is maximized, we want the "window titlebar", with its 
> > controls and title, to be *inside* the panel, and that's also where we're 
> > putting the menu. If the invariant condition here is "the menu goes with 
> > the 
> > title and controls", than it really would seem more consistent to have the 
> > menu-bar in/near the title-bar for non-maximized windows, whether as a 
> > traditional menubar, a menu-bar-in-titlebar, or a menu button. Each has 
> > some 
> > advantages and disadvantages. 
> >    Â 
> > 
> >    -- 
> > 
> >    Jeremy Nickurak -= Email/XMPP: -=Â [2][email protected]Â =-Â 
> > 
> >    --0016369f9b18b48439049fa0789a-- 
> > 
> > References 
> > 
> >    1. mailto:[email protected] 
> >    2. mailto:[email protected] 
> > 
> 
> 
> -- Ian Santopietro
> 
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