Hi. I created the bug report for this issue.
Could you please take a look at this? Best Regards Bartosz 2012/1/12, Bartosz <gan...@poczta.onet.pl>: > Hi Guys. > > Thanks for your comments. > I'm not familiar with the Ayatana process, so I have an question: > > Is any chance to improve the already opened applications icon look? > What is official process for this? > Who take the decision if the feature will be implemented or not? > > The "Backlight toggle" idea from me it was only suggestion (it is > really easy to enable/implement this feature, and it was tested by my > vision loose friend). > > If you don't like it I could suggest something else. > For example; > Change size of backlight in Launcher. If the application is already > opened the backlight size will be big. If application is not run, then > backlight will be smaller. > > Best Regards > Bartosz > > > 2012/1/12, Ian Santopietro <isan...@gmail.com>: >> Symbolic icons are better used for functions or tasks within an >> app/application/program (which I here use interchangeably). The back >> button >> in a browser. >> >> Who said the web browsers are broken? I use two to help stay organized. >> In >> one browser, I always have bookmarks, saved passwords and sessions, tabs, >> history, and auto fill for work, while in the other, I keep personal >> tabs, >> bookmarks, passwords, etc. >> >> How will the user know which app is set a default anyway? What if they >> want >> to change it? Short of looking in the settings or haphazardly opening it >> to >> find out, there isn't one. >> >> A good UI will balance form and function. You don't want to try and adapt >> function to fit form; if you have to go one way or the other, it's much >> better to sacrifice form for function. Symbolic icons are unintuitive and >> very confusing to new users, and they serve very little function since >> the >> current, branded icons are symbolic anyway. >> >> --Ian Santopietro >> >> "Eala Earendel enlga beorohtast Ofer middangeard monnum sended" >> >> Pa gur yv y porthaur? Public GPG key (RSA): >> http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup? >> op=get&search=0x412F52DB1BBF1234 >> On Jan 12, 2012 12:58 AM, "frederik.nn...@gmail.com" < >> frederik.nn...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 08:12, Jeremy Bicha <jbi...@ubuntu.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 11 January 2012 18:27, frederik.nn...@gmail.com >>>> <frederik.nn...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> > symbolic icons, not desaturated corporate branding icons. >>>> >>>> It is a very bad idea for Canonical to tweak the Firefox logo, and >>>> Mozilla is more of a non-profit than an "evil corporation". That >>>> Firefox's logo is nearly unrecognizable in Mint 12 is not a good >>>> thing. I don't believe Ubuntu can legally modify the Skype >>>> logo/trademarks anyway, but it's a bad idea so let's not even consider >>>> it. >>>> >>> >>> agreed. >>> that's why we have symbolic icons which represent a functionality. >>> The functionality can then be executed by a branded app. >>> Think of the symbolic icon as a wrapper. That's foundation, platform, >>> Unity, rather than "app". >>> So to be more specific, a functionality (application) maps to an >>> executor: >>> >>> www-browser - [firefox|epiphany|chromium|opera|...] >>> instant-messenger - [empathy|pidgin|ekiga|skype|trillian|...] >>> file-manager - [thunar|dolphin|marlin|nautilus|mc] >>> >>> this way the last used "app" will be opened for the respective >>> functionality by "default", when the symbol representing the >>> functionality >>> is clicked. >>> and: freedom of choice remains untampered with. branding and logo >>> copyrights are unharmed. >>> to think "free" and "open" doesn't mean we should allow the chaos from >>> the >>> old notification area to bloom in the unity launcher, now that we put an >>> end to it with symbolic indicator menus. >>> >>> >>> >>>> > does canonical want app developers to develop their UI or does >>>> > Ayatana >>>> aim at developing it themselves? >>>> >>>> Ubuntu developers maintain the platform or foundation including Unity; >>>> Ubuntu app developers write cool programs that can run on Ubuntu. And >>>> of course, not all Ubuntu developers are part of Canonical or the >>>> Design team. >>>> >>>> > remains the wording problem in the community.. what is "app" and is >>>> "app" >>>> > different from "application"? and what does "application" mean? >>>> >>>> I think you like philosophical rabbit trails. "App" is a nice, current >>>> buzzword for a computer program, as you might install from a >>>> smartphone app store. >>>> >>> >>> my philosophical rabbit trail, explained: >>> In today's "buzzy" language, stuff is not defined precisely. >>> If you want to define a system interface on the other hand, you will >>> need >>> a precise-to-the-core language to do this. >>> If the wording used to define the system is not precise, the system's >>> architecture will reflect this imprecision on all structural levels. >>> Imprecision is an advantage in many situations, especially where you >>> need >>> randomness and entropy. >>> It should be used deliberately, when defining an architecture, which >>> will >>> be used by millions of people for many hours of their lives. >>> >>> "app" != "application"; application != unequal functionality >>> symbolic icon maps to functionality >>> branding icon maps to "executing implementation" >>> >>> >>>> Anyway, back to the original topic. I'm glad that the original poster >>>> was able to set up Ubuntu relatively easily with larger, more visible >>>> icons. I agree that the launcher arrows are not obvious enough; maybe >>>> the designers will try to make them better in the coming weeks. >>> >>> >>> i'm curious to find out what that will feel like.. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana >>> Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
