Dear JoElayne ,
The Hawaii connection may be true . There was a large migration to there from Azores late 1800s . I have found many Azorean descs. at Hilo , including the Victorinos . Dan J. From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria Cristina Bento and Ernesto de Amaral..Agua d'Alto..Sao Miguel Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 05:35:15 -0700 My mother-in-law said children were born at home and not recorded. That is why we have never been able to find birth certificates. I have a copy of Mary (Marie) death certificate. She was living with my husband's family until she went into care facility. I have gone to Colusa. So did Jack Gravance, who has done a lot of research on that side of the family. I wonder if they were married in Santa Clara county before they moved to Colusa? He always told the family he went to Hawaii from the Azores. One cousin said that he told her he changed his name (took his mother's name.) JoElayne From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria Cristina Bento and Ernesto de Amaral..Agua d'Alto..Sao Miguel Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:00:07 +0000 Dear JElayne , I see that you have an extensive file on your Mattos family . Have you contacted the County Clerk at Colusa. That seems to be the likely place of marriage and birth of son William/Willie. Based on arrival date Manuel stated and birth info on William , marriage narrows down to 1909-1910. The only birth I could find was for Alice and mother's maiden name is given as Gravance , sic. Gravanco/Gravanca . At least you know Manuel was born San Jao . Have you pulled the death record for Marie 1948 ? Curiously there was another Manuel Mattos same age born Caldera in Tulare Co. Dan Jenkins From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria Cristina Bento and Ernesto de Amaral..Agua d'Alto..Sao Miguel Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 18:17:28 -0700 Boy am I glad to hear this! I thought I was the only one who was not finding anything. I know Maria Gravanco came to San Jose CA when she arrived in 1907. She must have met Manuel (De/Da)Mattos there. Cannot find any record of their marriage. The first record I have of them is 1920 census in Butte township, Sutter County, CA. Any suggestions on finding the elusive Mr. Mattos (Mattis) before 1920? JElayne From: [email protected] Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 08:59:19 -0700 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Maria Cristina Bento and Ernesto de Amaral..Agua d'Alto..Sao Miguel To: [email protected] Terri, Very little for the Azores is on the Internet. Actually, I saw a poster at a genealogy conference that has the Internet only at the tip of the iceberg. Court houses, libraries and films were the bulk of the iceberg. So much more is online now, but it's a small fraction. For Sao Miguel, you will have to order the films. Once you get close to the year 1800 (or very early 1800s) you may start to find others who are researching the same lines. Only a few people get lucky and find their family right of the bat (either on the Web or via something like this list/group). Most people have to research about 200 years worth to find someone else researching the same family. I find the same to be true on my American lines as well. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada </html </html Windows 7: Simplify your PC. Learn more. _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: Simplify your PC. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_evergreen1:102009 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
