Hi Manoel,
Thank you for the links and especially to the online library source. I'm looking forward to learning more! I understand about translating the document.....it's quite challenging! But I'm glad to have the information even with my limited understanding of what it actually says! Kind regards, Nancy From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: RES: RES: [AZORES-Genealogy] Violante Velho Cabral=Diogo Gonçalves de Travassos Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 00:11:45 -0300 Hi Nancy, Thank you for your kind words. Unfortunately I don´t feel myself sufficiently capable and qualified to work through the english translation of the texts in portuguese especially the excerpt I took from the book by José Pizarro related to the royal origin of the Bragançãos. Sorry! As to Urraca and Alfonso VI, you can find on line at this link two very interesting books about their lives: http://libro.uca.edu/title.htm The Kingdom of León-Castilla Under King Alfonso VI, 1065-1109 by Bernard F. Reilly (Print edition: Princeton University Press, 1988) The Kingdom of León-Castilla Under Queen Urraca, 1109-1126 by Bernard F. Reilly (Print edition: Princeton University Press, 1982) Best regards, Manoel César Furtado De: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Em nome de nancy jean baptiste Enviada em: terça-feira, 8 de junho de 2010 13:29 Para: azores group Assunto: RE: RES: [AZORES-Genealogy] Violante Velho Cabral=Diogo Gonçalves de Travassos Hi Manoel, Thank you for sending this. Since I descend from Pedro's brother, Nuno, I assume it is the same ancestry for him. I have read and reread your attachment with my limited Portuguese....filling in words with my dictionary as needed. However, that has it's drawbacks. I'm wondering if there is a translation available for this document or if anyone could tell me how to translate it on line....or best yet, if one of our native speakers could translate it for us? I was disappointed when I saw John's correction to Dona Violante's ancestry because I am very intrigued with being related to Madragana and her history......but alas, not through this line......perhaps my " da Sousa Pereira" line. Regardless, now that I see what is a possible connection to Urraca...Queen of Leon and Castilla, by her father, Afonso Vl, I'm hoping the connection to her is valid. Earlier this year I read a biography of her......she was quite a woman and added territory to the lands she inherited from her father. Her life was very interesting and she had not only great determination and stamina but was also great passion! I like that and hope I'm reading this document correctly. Best regards and thanks for sharing knowledge! Nancy Jean Baptista From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: RES: [AZORES-Genealogy] Violante Velho Cabral=Diogo Gonçalves de Travassos Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:59:28 -0300 John, Thank you for sharing your informations. I am including now an attached file with a yet partial ancestry of our Pedro Velho de Travassos, a precious gateway to iberian medieval times. Among the main sources I used are the ancient “Lineages’ Book” from c. 1340 (Livro de Linhagens do Deão e Livro de Linhagens do conde D. Pedro) and the book “Linhagens Medievais Portuguesas – Genealogia e Estratégias (1279-1325)” by José A. de Sotto Mayor Pizarro. Manoel Cesar Furtado De: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Em nome de [email protected] Enviada em: sábado, 5 de junho de 2010 20:09 Para: [email protected] Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Violante Velho Cabral=Diogo Gonçalves de Travassos Dear friends and fellow genealogists: Please do not shoot the messenger! I too am a descendant of Velho Cabral's sister Violante and his brother Álvaro. For many years I included Afonso III and Madragana among their ancestors. But more recent research has shed new light on their lineage and, alas, I have had to correct some very long standing, but eroneous, lines. I include the fruit of my research in an attachment. The best contemporary research on the lineage of the Cabrals is "Subsídios para Uma Biografia de Pedro Álvares Cabral" by , Luís de Melo Vaz de Sampaio, Universidade de Coimbra: 1971. I offer this research in good faith and to prevent others from chasing after false genealogies. Best regards, John Miranda Raposo -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. 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