I am not sure if I can add to wat you have, but I've done some research on these lines. I came up with similar confusing information.
One question I have. Was the Consulado Geral...i.e. the Consulate logs in Hawaii consulted for the passage on the Monarch and the passage on the City of Paris. This would tell us if there were two arrivals and what the families looked like whe when then arrived in Hawaii. As I understand your info. below you've got the passport registration from DeMello's book and then the ship manifest for the City of Paris. Is that right? I haven't gone over this line in a long time, but I see some things. 1. There is a pretty big age difference between Francisco Jose de Souza and Jacintha Candida--22 years. This could imply a second marriage. 2. Francisco married to Joanna Erminia da Costa Maiato don't seem to appear on the Monarch's ship manifest. Perhaps they never went to Hawaii? Presence of a passport entry does not always mean the couple went to Hawaii. 3. There is also confusion with that entry. Eva aged 12 is listed as a niece of Francisco Jose d'Souza. She appears to be the same age as Eva listed in the ship entry for Francisco and Jacinta. Same Eva or a coincidence in names? I did find out alot about Eva. She married Antonio Joaquim Fernandes, son of Andre Joaquim Fernandes and Rosa Jacinta Duarte. Living with the couple in 1900 s Irmma [sic] Souza and Rosey Souza. Both are listed as sister-in-laws to Antono Joaquim Fernandes. This would imply that the Eva who married Antonio is the daughter of Francisco Jse de Souza and Jacintha Candido. Antonio and Eva are on page 120 of PHM. This is where it gets more confusing. Eva's parents are listed as Francisco Jose de Souza and Miquelina Rosa da Cunha. So, we have a couple confusing things going on here. First we have a ship manifest showing Jacintha being the Mother of these children. But, the childre themselves claim Miquelina as their Mother. And to further confuse it, the Francisco in the passport record claims Miquelina is the widow! Then add in the age discrepancy between Francisco and his wife Jacintha. I found Jacintha living with her daughter Anna (Souza) Brum in 1900. She is a widow. So, there is no more to find out about Francisco there. I also have the marriage record for Francisco and Jacintha's son Jose who married Maria "Mary" Medeiros. On his marriage cert, he lists his parents as Francisco Souza and Jacintha Candida Ferreira. To me it's confusing. It's possible that the children are confused on the names of their parents. It's possible that the Francisco listed on the City of Paris isn't really as old as he says. Or, he his and Jacintha is wife #2. Miquelina being wife #1. I think the ony way to sort this out is going to be to get the Consulate log in Hawaii record. I don't believe the passport record for 1884 exists, so that's not available to you. Also, it might be helpful to find Francisco and Jacintha's death records. You probably won't find Francisco's since he died before 1900. Then to go to the records for Rabo de Peixe to see if these children can be located and who is listed as the Mother and Father. That last one may be the only way to sort it all out. I'm not sure my information helps or not. Mel On Oct 12, 12:40 pm, bbeara <briix...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > Some of you may be familiar with the volunteers at the PGHS. Mr. > Nelson has been fantastic in helping me and left me this little gem of > a mystery: > > "I checked the passport registration and the consul's "passenger > manifest".... > the pasport registration for Sao Miguel...listed Francisco Jose d' > Sousa (25 yrs old), father deceased, mother Miguelina Rosa da Cunha > from R. de Piexe, wife Joana Erminia da Costa Maiato (20 yrs old) and > niece (?) Eva (12 yrs old). this is for the ship Monarch....they are > not listed on the consul's record for the Monarch. > > Freitas (page 119) listed Mairanno Jose de Souza, born Rabo de > Peixe...son of Francisco Jose de Souza and Miquelina Rosa da Cunha. > > The consul general record: City of Paris Francisco Jose de Sousa > (57 yrs old), wife Jacintha Candida (35 yrs old), children Marianno > 17, Eva 12, Maria 8, Anna 4, Rosa 15 days." > > Now all this came from wondering about Gx3 Grandfather Francisco Jose > Souza and the confusion between ships manifest and the Freitas Book > citing different wives. My Auntie (Gx2 to Francisco) knew of > Miquelina de Cunha from when her daughters did a school project. > > Francisco's son Marianno is in the PHM by Freitas and shows Miquelina > as mother; Anna SOUZA Brum is in the PHM by Freitas daughter of > Francisco and shows mother as Jacintha Candida Ferriera. > > So I turn to all you seasoned historians for some ideas. > > 1) Wrong Francisco? > 2) Married twice? > 3) Francisco had a son of same name (as noted above) could he be the > one on the SS City of Paris passeger list? > 4) ??? > > My gutt says (and has been yelling @ me about this for some time) that > the Francsico I chose (the one married to Jacintha) is not right. > Marianno named one of his daughters Miquelina (laid to rest as > Madiline) although not first born daughter I find this as a flag. > > Your suggestions are most welcomed. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. 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