Hi Yvonne,
Disregard the other information I sent you. That is the wrong family. Looking at the Passport record I read the following: 23 Nov 1906 Manuel Joaquim de Costa age 56 Son of Jose Joaquim de Costa and Rosa Caetana Maria dos Santos age 56 daughter of Manuel (Vieira?) (Gi?) and Rosa do Espirito Santo. Idelina age 19 Lepoldina age 16 And looking at the last line it appears this person is traveling with them Manuel Ferreira age 10 son of Manuel (Rego?) and Julia dos Santos. I have a Manuel son of Jose Joaquim de Costa and Rosa Caetana born in Ribeirinha on 1 Oct 1850 but no marriage record for him (Which means he may have married after 1883) I am still looking for Maria dos Santos. I am going to have to search the records for births in 1850 for her. May be some one else on the list can look at this CCA record and get a better read on the names of the parents of Maria dos Santos. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, New Hampshire, USA Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores -----Original Message----- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Yvonne Domings Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 5:37 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Topic: da Costa, de Sousa Domingos, dos Santos Hi Rick, Well this is very interesting. Thank you for checking it out for me. I really appreciate it. hat is the FHC? I'm new at all of this. This name thing must create nightmares. I wonder why they opt to change their name so much. For all we know, then the name Angelina could be wrong, no? At any rate, I went back to the CCA site and tried to imagine the names you found printed on the passaportes list, but I'm not sure. I'm attaching it for you to take a look at if you don't mind. Here is the link as well: http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/PPDL1906-1907/PPDL19 06-1907_item1/P34.html I guess your idea to write to Ponta Delgada for copies is a logical next step. Do I need to request this in Portuguese? I don't think I speak enough to do that, but I can ask a few friends who do. The problem is that I only have a full date for one of the sisters (Adelina or Idalina). She was born April 18, 1887. I have Marianna as born in 1885 and Leopoldina born in 1891. As for the archives in Ponta Delgada, would they have a record of my grandfather-in-law's birth record as well? I happen to have a birth date for him (July 6, 1881). Yvonne Topic: da Costa, de Sousa Domingos, dos Santos <http://groups.google.com/group/azores/t/c5040851e65c3b18> <mailto:rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> <rfrancispimen...@comcast.net> Oct 23 07:45AM -0400 ^ <> Hi Yvonne, The name Manuel Joaquim de Costa while consists of common names the combination of them is not that common. This Manuel Joaquim de Costa was born before 22 Jan 1856 (Based on age given on marriage record) you said your Manuel Joaquim was born about 1855. As far as the name Maria dos Santos and Maria Julia Arruda, I have found that woman seem to have their names recorded in more different ways than men and most of the time only the first name remains the same over the course of years. My 2d great grandmother was known at different times in her life as Rita dos Santos, Rita de Jesus, Rita da Conceicao, Rita de Sousa, and Rita de Pimentel. So what needs to be done is to find a record that names one of their children (Lipordinha, Mariana or Aldina) and names them. I took a quick look at the FHC this past Thursday to see if I could find anything and The Baptism records for 1881 in Santissimo Salvador are not on the microfilm but I did look at 1880 and 1882-83 which is all I have access to I did find the birth of a child Angelina baptized on 1 Jan 1880. The parents names are the same as I previously reported. This may require a request to the Archives in Ponta Delgada for a copy of the birth record of Lipordinha if you know her birth date. Where on the CCA site did you find the passports? Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, New Hampshire, USA Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores -----Original Message----- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of yvonne domings Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 9:37 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: da Costa, de Sousa Domingos, dos Santos Hi Rick, Thank you so much! This is amazing. I understand that the Portuguese shift names around, but I am a little confused about why you think it may be the same person. Can you elaborate? I wish I could find my g-father-in-law in the passaportes, but I haven't found anything yet. There are several records for him that say he was born in Ponta Delgada, but I'm told that could include the whole area. Do you know anything about that? Yvonne > your Maria dos Santos married she used the name Maria Julia Arruda. I > will try and verify by looking for the baptism of any children. The > dates of this couple Manuel Joaquim de Costa and Maria Julia Arruda seem > to be right. > I have been working with data from Ribeirinha records for over 10 years > Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores > -----Original Message----- > From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions > when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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