Rick and Yvone, The parents of Maria dos Santos; Manuel Pereira Giraldo (Geraldo) and Rosa do Espirito Santo.
Margaret. On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:48 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > *Hi Yvonne,* > > * * > > *Disregard the other information I sent you. That is the wrong family. > Looking at the Passport record I read the following:* > > * * > > *23 Nov 1906** * > > *Manuel Joaquim de Costa age 56 Son of Jose Joaquim de Costa and Rosa > Caetana* > > *Maria dos **Santos** age 56 daughter of Manuel (Vieira?) (Gi?) and **Rosa > ** do Espirito Santo.* > > *Idelina age 19* > > *Lepoldina age 16* > > * * > > *And looking at the last line it appears this person is traveling with > them* > > *Manuel Ferreira age 10 son of Manuel (Rego?) and Julia dos **Santos**. * > > * * > > *I have a Manuel son of Jose Joaquim de Costa and Rosa Caetana born in > Ribeirinha on **1 Oct 1850** but no marriage record for him (Which means > he may have married after 1883) I am still looking for Maria dos **Santos* > *. I am going to have to search the records for births in 1850 for her.* > > * * > > *May be some one else on the list can look at this CCA record and get a > better read on the names of the parents of Maria dos **Santos**.* > > * * > > *Rick* > > * * > > *Richard Francis Pimentel* > > *Epping, New Hampshire, USA* > > *Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and > Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores* > > * * > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On > Behalf Of *Yvonne Domings > *Sent:* Sunday, October 24, 2010 5:37 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Topic: da Costa, de Sousa Domingos, dos > Santos > > > > Hi Rick, Well this is very interesting. Thank you for checking it out for > me. I really appreciate it. hat is the FHC? I'm new at all of this. This > name thing must create nightmares. I wonder why they opt to change their > name so much. For all we know, then the name Angelina could be wrong, no? > > At any rate, I went back to the CCA site and tried to imagine the names you > found printed on the passaportes list, but I'm not sure. I'm attaching it > for you to take a look at if you don't mind. Here is the link as well: > http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/PPDL1906-1907/PPDL1906-1907_item1/P34.html > > I guess your idea to write to Ponta Delgada for copies is a logical next > step. Do I need to request this in Portuguese? I don't think I speak enough > to do that, but I can ask a few friends who do. The problem is that I only > have a full date for one of the sisters (Adelina or Idalina). She was born > April 18, 1887. I have Marianna as born in 1885 and Leopoldina born in 1891. > As for the archives in Ponta Delgada, would they have a record of my > grandfather-in-law's birth record as well? I happen to have a birth date for > him (July 6, 1881). > > Yvonne > > > > Topic: da Costa, de Sousa Domingos, dos > Santos<http://groups.google.com/group/azores/t/c5040851e65c3b18> > > *<[email protected]> <[email protected]>* Oct 23 > 07:45AM -0400 ^ <#12be3384a6553ea7_digest_top> > > Hi Yvonne, > > The name Manuel Joaquim de Costa while consists of common names the > combination of them is not that common. This Manuel Joaquim de Costa was > born before 22 Jan 1856 (Based on age given on marriage record) you said > your Manuel Joaquim was born about 1855. As far as the name Maria dos > Santos and Maria Julia Arruda, I have found that woman seem to have > their names recorded in more different ways than men and most of the > time only the first name remains the same over the course of years. My > 2d great grandmother was known at different times in her life as Rita > dos Santos, Rita de Jesus, Rita da Conceicao, Rita de Sousa, and Rita de > Pimentel. So what needs to be done is to find a record that names one of > their children (Lipordinha, Mariana or Aldina) and names them. > > I took a quick look at the FHC this past Thursday to see if I could find > anything and The Baptism records for 1881 in Santissimo Salvador are not > on the microfilm but I did look at 1880 and 1882-83 which is all I have > access to I did find the birth of a child Angelina baptized on 1 Jan > 1880. The parents names are the same as I previously reported. This may > require a request to the Archives in Ponta Delgada for a copy of the > birth record of Lipordinha if you know her birth date. > > Where on the CCA site did you find the passports? > > Rick > > Richard Francis Pimentel > Epping, New Hampshire, USA > Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and > Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] > On Behalf > Of yvonne domings > Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 9:37 PM > To: Azores Genealogy > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: da Costa, de Sousa Domingos, dos Santos > > Hi Rick, Thank you so much! This is amazing. I understand that the > Portuguese shift names around, but I am a little confused about why > you think it may be the same person. Can you elaborate? > > I wish I could find my g-father-in-law in the passaportes, but I > haven't found anything yet. There are several records for him that say > he was born in Ponta Delgada, but I'm told that could include the > whole area. Do you know anything about that? > > Yvonne > > > your Maria dos Santos married she used the name Maria Julia Arruda. I > > will try and verify by looking for the baptism of any children. The > > dates of this couple Manuel Joaquim de Costa and Maria Julia Arruda > seem > > to be right. > > > I have been working with data from Ribeirinha records for over 10 > years > > Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] > On > Behalf > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. Follow the confirmation > directions > > when they arrive. > > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No > Mail > > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/Azores. 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