How do we ever find anything?? Diane On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 11:50 AM, [email protected] < [email protected]> wrote:
> This thread has been very interesting and opened my eyes to new > possibilities. It takes great cleverness sometimes to find our Azorean > ancestors! > > My husband's 2nd grgrandfather was Antonio Pedro Leite, and most if not all > of his 5 sons took the "Pedro" as a "middle" name. But when son (our > gr-uncle) Joao Pedro Leite came to the states, he alternated between John > Peter Leite and John Leite Peters. His children and grandchildren are > Peters', not Leites! > > Finding them was pure serendipity, including my brother-in-law remembering > his grandfather had mentioned back in the 1980's that he had cousins named > "Peters", which made no sense when he first told me. > > Eileen Leite > > > > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: John Vasconcelos [email protected] > Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 09:47:57 -0700 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] First, middle names for Azorean people > > > I can cite another example of an added "alcubha" which occurs in my family > tree, that of using the father's first name. as an added alcunha. I have an > ancestor, Antonio de Freitas Eduardo. His father was Eduardo de Freitas. In > Fajazinha Flores, this alcunha of Eduardo has evolved into a surname. Some > members of this family who have immigrated to the US now use Edwards as > their surname. > ohn Vasconcelos > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:57 AM, John Raposo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > In the parish registers in the 18th century it was not uncommon to add > the > > person's profession to the last name (without commas) in order to > > distinguish António Carvalho Alfaiate from António Cavalho Pedreiro and > > António Carvalho Serralheiro, all living in the same village in the same > > time period and maybe married to women all named Maria de Jesus. > Alfaiate, > > Pedreiro and Serralheiro are not their family names although sometimes > these > > names became the alcunhas for their children and their decendants. > Sometims > > people think they have hit a brick wall in tracing back because they look > > for a marriage of António Carvalho Pedreiro and Maria de Jesus, (which > they > > cannot find) when they should be looking for the marriage of Antonio > > Carvalho, a stone mason, and Maria de Jesus, a houswife. > > > > John Miranda Raposo > > > > *From:* celeste perry <[email protected]> > > *To:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 5, 2011 7:03 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] First, middle names for Azorean people > > > > Denis, > > I believe this is the reason the "nick-names" came into use. One > Manuel > > lived and he was called, "Manuel from the end of the road." I don't know > > the Portuguese word for end of the road; however, I think you can see one > > way of identifying one Manuel. > > As for the Maria thing for the girls, I feel that 90 percent of girls > > were named Maria and once they were old enough to move about the village, > > they used their first and middle name or sometimes just their middle name > > that might be less common. > > > > Celeste, Hayward, CA > > Celeste Perry [email protected] > > *From:* Denis Meals <[email protected]> > > *To:* [email protected] > > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 5, 2011 12:50 PM > > *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] First, middle names for Azorean people > > > > Listers: > > > > I read with interest the recent discussion regarding the > 'end-of-the-line' > > surnames. Dano on 1 Oct. spoke to this, and I second his comments. > > > > However, I now have a question to pose to our listers, and ask for their > > opinions. > > > > Azorean first and second names seem to be restricted to only perhaps 12 > > commonly used, i.e. Manoel, Jose, Antonio, Joao, Maria, Jacintha, > Joaquina, > > Umbelina, being perhaps most common. Given that most families had many > > children means that within a community, there would have been many named > > Manoel, for example. For the older still unmarried, at least several > named > > Manoel Jose or Maria Jacintha. > > > > How then did they distinguish between the many same-named individuals > > within their immediate community, as well as adjacent villages? > > > > Denis > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. 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