On 22/05/2012, at 5:21 PM, [email protected] wrote:

I'm not sure if its you I've been in touch with previously, but I'm connected to another Frank Joseph from the Azores, Master Mariner, who came to New Zealand. Now he, most definitely, had relations in the USA, and he, himself also lived there for a time, (Gold Hill, Nevada) and buried his first wife (my gt.gt.g.t aunt) there, along with an infant child.

You will likely bump into his information in search of your chap, but there's not much I don't know, that can't be confirmed as to which one it is.

Jools
Auckland




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chris murray <[email protected]> May 21 04:12AM -0700

Hi Tony, I am in Australia and have a ggg grandfather that came here from the Azores. At my local library i have access to the Victorian BDM records and would be happy to research your family connections . Let me know if i can help , please send me as much detail as you can on the names and approximate dates and if possible the town where they might have lived. I can also access cemetery files. All at no cost. Will be pleased to help. Maria Lima and i got so excited last year as we thought that both our Azores relations came to Australia on the ship Water Lily but it was not to be the case
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Chris
Thanks to both Cheri & maria Lima for the useful hints. I been to Archives NZ and they were very helpful and supplied me some information which I didn't have. This is how I found out my GtGt Grandfathers name and as I said earlier his place of birth is listed as Azores or Western Isles, neither of which is very useful! The Obits & Marriage papers were of no use either. I can only surmise given the period in which he lived, he didn't have an easy time of it not being "english' and authorities possibly found it easier just to say 'Western Isles' on official documents. >>Francis Joseph was born in 1833, some where in the Azores. His Father was carpenter named Antonio. We don’t know the name of his Mother. Francis left the Azores as a young boy and >>>spent some years on whaling ships before “jumping ship” in New Zealand. He was then 34 years old and spent the next 50 years living here. He never became a naturalised citizen of New Zealand.. In 1883, at the age of 50 years he married an English woman in New Plymouth, Taranaki, New Zealand and they had 3 children. Francis died there in August 1917 aged 84 years. We do not know which island he came from and if anyone in the room has any connection or knowledge of him or his family I’d be very grateful to hear from you. He is my Gt Grandfather. >>>My Uncle who knows less than I do told me that about 30 years ago a lady from America came looking for our family. Perhaps we have some American relatives? Thanks, Tony

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