Hi Adrian, Yes, I'm in Rio de Janeiro, RJ, Brazil, Rua Almirante Cochrane, 12 CEP 20550-040.
I also don't have a baptism record of Manoel Borges Pires nor Maria José da Silva ,but I do have a death record of both. Maybe they weren't born in Madeira Island, and maybe they were born in the Azores instead, but José Borges Pires said they came from Madeira Island. In fact, he (Jose Borges Pires) didn't said that their parents were born in Madeira Island ! If they really lived there before coming to Brazil, or if they just boarded on a ship in Madeira Island to go to Brazil, or even if José Borges Pires didn't know properly where they came from, that I don't know .... My father once told me that only Manoel Borges Pires (Filho) remained in Portugal. He also said that he didn't knew for sure, if the rest of Manoel sons had descendants (excluding Carmen Borges Pires and, obviously, José Borges Pires. Those, I know certainly, had children). Besides, he told me that the sons of Manoel, whom came to Brazil, lived in Santa Tereza (a district here, from Rio de Janeiro). Furthermore, I don't have contact with none of the descendents from the 6 sons of Manoel. Only with some of José Borges Pires descendants. Thank you for responding me. Moreover, I'd like to know if you have some info on the parents from Manoel Borges Pires or Maria José da Silva. I have some non official information which tells me that the parents of Maria José da Silva were called Vicente Constantino da Silva and Maria Julia da Silva, though I'm not sure. I look foward to receiving news from you, Jorge 2012/10/20 Adrian Martins <[email protected]> > Hi Jorge, > > Thank you for taking e time to write me to let me know of our ancestral > connection. > I just sat down to look at your msg and am happy to get this info. > > My mother told me stories about having relatives in Brazil somewhere. She > mentioned that her mother (Maria Do Carmelo Borges Pires) used to write to > Raymunda and was invited to come live with them but Maria had declined for > whatever reason. In the meantime they stopped writing and lost touch. My > mother Maria Manuela Borges Pires Martins is now in her early 70's and is > doing well. Still remembers many things from way back when. > Where are you located? Are u in Rio? Are you in touch with other family > from the original descendants of the 6 children? > > My family settled in Cambridge Ontario Canada. My grandmother Maria lived > with us for a long time before she passed away so I remember her well. > > Do you have any baptismal records for Manuel Borges Pires or his wife > Maria Jose Da Silva? I cant seem to find them. > Also were they both born in Ilha da Madeira, Portugal? My mom doesn't > think that was correct...but doesn't know for sure. > > I look forward to hearing from you. > > Adrian Martins. > > > > On Sunday, October 14, 2012 3:10:34 AM UTC-4, Jorge Costa Pires Filho > wrote: >> >> Hi Adrian, My name is Jorge Costa Pires Filho. >> >> Manoel Borges Pires (was born about 1848 in Ilha da Madeira, Portugal - >> dead in oct, 3, 1902, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil ) and >> Maria Jose da Silva (was born about 1852, in Ilha da Madeira, Portugal, >> - dead in aug, 12 1913, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil ) both are in my Family >> Tree. >> >> They had six children: >> >> Manoel Borges Pires (Filho) - was born before 1873 >> José Borges Pires - was born in 1873 >> Leopoldina Borges Pires - was born after 1884 >> Maria Borges Pires - was born after 1873 >> Raymunda Borges Pires - was born after 1874 >> Carmem Borges Pires - was born after 1885 >> >> My father is Jorge Costa Pires and my grandfather is Oscar Borges Pires. >> The father of Oscar Borges Pires is José Borges Pires, brother of Manoel >> Borges Pires (Filho), father of Maria, who is in this document of baptism... >> >> >> Em quinta-feira, 4 de outubro de 2012 13h38min02s UTC-3, Adrian Martins >> escreveu: >>> >>> Thank you kindly. >>> Adrian. >>> >> -- > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. Follow the confirmation directions > when they arrive. > For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership."
