Thanks, Joao, and all the others with their suggestions whom I've answered privately.
Unfortunately, the many emails I sent early on to Guarda.Mor went completely unanswered. It's like they are hoping I go away by ignoring me.
Luckily my Quatro Ilhas volumes had no such problems, also from Dislivro, but I took no chances that time and used my friend Fernando Mascarenhas in Lisboa to procure them. Then I sent him the money.
I might not have needed to be so careful, but I didn't want to entirely miss getting them this time around.
Of course, my credit card company can't help after all these years and I don't even have that one now.
After I dig up my receipts that are surely buried somewhere after my several moves, I will file the complaint and maybe get lucky.
If they actually still offer those volumes, I might try again to get them.
Doug da Rocha Holmes
Sacramento, California
Pico Genealogist
916-550-1618
Sacramento, California
Pico Genealogist
916-550-1618
---------- Original Message --------
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Genealogias da Ilha Terceira
From: João_Ventura <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, January 16, 2013 2:43 am
To: [email protected]
Guarda-mor is run by the same people that run geneall.net.. Don't bother contacting CCA, nor DECO (unless you want to make yourself a member of DECO).. You can file something in the "Portal do Consumidor" (Buyer's Portal), but I don't think you'll get much luck with something so old.Those books were published by Dislivro (you can still buy them at http://www.dislivro.pt/detalhes_livros.asp?Cat_Id=1001&offset=10&Product_Id=492).Have you contacted Guarda-mor? What was their reply to you?Regards,João Ventura (the other one)--
On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 1:36:50 AM UTC+1, Doug Holmes wrote:I was recently reminded of a situation I have with a book publisher called Guarda-Mor in Portugal and am wondering if this also happened to anyone else.
This book company was responsible for getting pre-orders for the 10 volume series of the Terceira genealogy books published years ago by Jorge Forjaz and Antonio Mendes.
The company is website is this:It looks like they only have the index volume now. The series is called "Genealogias da Ilha Terceira."They took my money for the books in 2006 and then took my money for the shipping to the U.S. in 2007, but never sent me anything.
I just kept waiting and I believe the books are probably all sold out now and I'm left with nothing. It was about $750 USD, or so. And that was the value in 2006-2007.
I am hoping someone will read this and might have contacts that can tell me who I can complain to about this theft. It's way too late for me to file a claim through my charge card. I was amongst the very first to order them in advance.
I'm not looking for a refund - I want the books. I just hope there are still some out there. Some copies, I heard, were defective with blank pages and those might be all they have left. Better than nothing, I guess, but if that's all they can send me, I would also want some money back and photocopies of the missing pages.Does anyone have the email address of Jorge Forjaz and/or Antonio Mendes?I would like to let them know that Guarda-Mor stole my money for their books and did the same to my friend in California named David Bertao, another good Terceira genealogist.Did it happen to anyone else? I'd like to hear from them.Numerous attempts to contact influential people in Portugal have gotten nowhere.Well, I think I've summed it up.Atenciosamente,Doug da Rocha Holmes
Sacramento, California
Terceira Genealogist
916-550-1618
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