Kathleen Allen is my confirmed 3rd cousin. My aunt is a suggested 4th cousin remote match for her, which makes sense since my match is on the other side of my family, although apparently there is a more remote link also. We both match Vivian Christy (her 5th me 6th cousins) and I also match all of Vivian's relatives tested and have found links to all except Frank Patrick Holmes, who is a suggested 3rd cousin. My aunt matches all except Frank Holmes and Gertrude. So my link with Frank should be either my maternal grandfather on Pico or my maternal grandmother on Sao Jose. Guess I'll do some chromosome matching to see if there is any commonality.
On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 11:22:25 PM UTC-7, Doug Holmes wrote: > I have been studying the chromosome browser tool found on Family Finder > results and realize that's what they were talking about when they did the > updates to the new and better DNA results in early February. > > If you have had the Family Finder test and having used this browser, I > think you'll really find it valuable. > > For instance, Mike Gilfilian, one of our list members, is a 4th cousin, > once removed for my father (and 5th cousin to me). Since we have no other > common ancestors and share only Piedade, Pico as our common village, it's a > great place to start with these comparisions on this browser. You'll really > need to look at this browser to follow me on this. No way you'll understand > this message otherwise, I don't think. > > When I click on Mike's name and compare his DNA to my father's, the places > that are colored are the exact locations and exact DNA that we both share. > > When I also click others of our matches, most of the time we don't find > more matches to this exact segment of DNA where Mike and I match. But there > is one case where another person does also match that same exact DNA and > that's the amazing value of this browser. Since I know the exact place Mike > and I match, anyone else who matches there must have these same exact > ancestors. There is no way around it. It pinpoints it for this third person. > > I found two more people whose DNA matches this same DNA as Mike and I > share. It's not 100% the same, but most of it is the same. What I mean is > that the colored sections that represent each person is longer for one than > for another. I suppose it means the ancestors we all share didn't always > pass all their DNA on to each of us in the same amounts. > > So the surprise to me is just who these other people are. One is my friend > with a lot of Sao Roque do Pico ancestry. I know all his ancestors for all > four of his grandparents and I never would have suspected him to match me > with these Piedade ancestors that Mike and I share. Since he also has a lot > of Lajes do Pico ancestry, that might be how this happened. I'm guessing > that some branch of his Lajes ancestry came over from Piedade before the > records of Lajes now exist (so they came over in maybe the 1600s). > > Or maybe it's the opposite and some branch of my and Mike's Piedade > ancestry came over from Lajes to Piedade before Piedade's records started > (also in the 1600s). > > Looking at the ancestry of this 4th person who matches, they also have a > lot of south side Pico ancestors. So due to this and for other other reason > I've ever been giving from existing records, I believe this part of my > Piedade ancestry must trace back to older Lajes area families. And I have > some leads now on just who they might link to in the middle or early 1600s > when there are no church records anymore for Lajes. > > Aside from that, I did notice several cases of other matches we have where > a third person was an exact match to someone else. If you have many matches > and not all are know just how, this could quite possibly lead you to the > answer. > > I'd love to hear what others find when using this chromosome browser. > > Doug da Rocha Holmes > Sacramento, California > Pico & Terceira Genealogist > 916-550-1618 > www.dholmes.com > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
