Thank you, Joao.  I did have the yr as 1788.  Don't know why I typed
1785...  The Vicencia who is in the death & marriage records above is my
husband's 3rd great grandmother.  Somehow when I was trying to read the
records late last nite, I thought I saw Madalena somewhere in the record.
Sure can't see it now!!  I checked the Santa Luzia baptisms for Vicencia
and couldn't find her.  I probably missed her & will check again.

Thanks again for your help,

Fawn Silva


On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 12:59 PM, João Ventura <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello, Fawn
>
> I think the year is 1788, the wife's name is Rosa Maria residents of "Vale
> Levante" the Parish is of course, the Santa Maria Madalena in Pico, the
> godfather's name seems to be José Inácio Oliveira of the village of Faial.
>
> Note that "Vale Levante", means eastern valley, so it doesn't have to be a
> specific place existing today.
>
> Also, I'm not sure this is the same Vicencia Rosa.. It clearly says that
> the Vicencia in the marriage record was born and baptized in Sta. Luzia. In
> any case, the second one is this person:
>
>
> http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=StaLuzia;lang=pt;p=vicencia;n=rosa
>
> Her death record is:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SANTALUZIA-O-1795-1853/PIC-SR-SANTALUZIA-O-1795-1853_item1/P167.html
>
> Note that it's not that uncommon for women to have morphing names.. Try to
> research her mother's family comes from some 'Francisco' family. Also, it's
> quite possible she lied about having been abandoned. It's also possible she
> didn't know.
>
> João
>
>
> On Monday, July 1, 2013 5:51:49 AM UTC+2, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> Hello Group,
>>
>> I have not posted for quite a while but need some help with a baptism I
>> just found.  This is for Vincencia Roza, who was left on a doorstep @ birth
>> at the home of Joseph de Rosa and his wife ______ Maria and was baptized in
>> Madalena, Pico.
>>
>> I can't read all of it but what I got out of it was:
>>
>> Vicenta, daughter of unknown parents September 5, 1785, was laid at the
>> door of Joseph da Rosa and his wife _____  Maria, residents of _____
>> natives of this parish ______Madelena, Pico, and was baptized on the 6thday 
>> of the same month, godfather was grandson, Joseph Ignatio_____ Fayal
>>
>> But in her Sept 1811 Santa Luzia, Pico, marriage record Vincentia is
>> listed as the legitimate daughter of Joze ____ Roza and Maria Francisca.
>> Did they adopt her and so she became legitimate?  Was Maria Francisca a
>> different wife than the ______ Maria in the baptism record?
>>
>> Also, when you come across someone who has been adopted, do you then
>> follow the adopted family line?  That sounds like what I would like to do
>> since they obviously became her parents.
>>
>> I don't know how to attach these baptism & marriage records but here are
>> the sites:
>>
>> Baptism:
>>
>> ***http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-
>> MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800_item1/P57.html*<http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800_item1/P57.html>
>>
>> Marriage:
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.**gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-**
>> SR-SANTALUZIA-C-1735-1815/PIC-**SR-SANTALUZIA-C-1735-1815_**
>> item1/P267.html<http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SANTALUZIA-C-1735-1815/PIC-SR-SANTALUZIA-C-1735-1815_item1/P267.html>
>>
>>
>>
>> Any help or insight would be greatly appreciated!!
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Fawn Silva
>>
>> St. Louis, MO
>>
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