Thank you so much for all that information Tomas! I now believe my family may not be crazy after all but have legitimate reasons for the names they use/gave. A name is just a name unless you are trying to trace them!!
Karen Medeiros-Huffman On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 2:15 AM, Tomas Leal <[email protected]> wrote: > The naming practice is just as confusing to me when I am in the Azores > among the living as it is in searching documents. I have neighbors I know > are related to each other with different family names. Some children use > the father's family name, others use the mother's. > > One factor, I've learned, is the repetition of the same handful of given > names. Most women have Maria as their first given name, which means most > women have the same name. How do you distinguish one from the other? Some > use a combination of first and second names as in "Maria Santo Christo" or > "Maria da Paz." Some go entirely by the second name. Many women named > "Maria Conceição" go only by Conceição. One family here of four sisters is > an example. Each one is Maria, though only the first one uses that name > (Maria da Gloria), the next two (twins) use only their second names, and > the fourth one goes back and forth between Maria Margarida and just > Margarida. In her case two different people talking about her to me might > use different names to refer to her. As for a family name, that can depend > upon whose land the family now lives on. All four of these sisters use > their family name, not their husbands' names, primarily because their > family has been a prominent one for a few generations. > > In the case of my family in Faial, my grandfather's youngest sister > remained in the house to care for their mother and she remained in the > house after their mother died. Her last name was Leal, same as everyone > else in the family. She married "the boy next door" whose family name was > Coelho; however, she deemed "rabbit" an inappropriate name for a woman, so > she never changed her last name. In turn, both her sons used the name > Coelho, but she used Leal with her daughter, which she still does, long > after her marriage to Abreu (another boy next door). Maintaining the Leal > name ties her with the property and signals everyone how the property has > passed from generation to generation. > > Another complication is the repetition of the male names José, Manuel, > Jõao, António, or Carlos. The oldest son quite often gets the same first > name as his father. I have a neighbor, Manuel Paulino, whose adult son is > also Manuel. So the two could be told apart, the son uses his mother's > family name: Manuel Furtado. This is what everyone calls him. In turn, his > daughters use Paulino as their family name. Thus, their birth certificates > probably show their parents' last names as different from their own. > > In the nearby town of Santo Amaro, most men and many women use two names: > António Carlos, José Manuel, Maria de Jesus, Mary Jõao, and so on. Many of > my neighbors do not even know each other's last name!!!! Reason: Many of > the 294 permanent residents have one of three dominant family names: > Morais, Neves, or Melo. Some have TWO of those names in their "full" names. > Here in my fourth summer, I am still trying to get the names straight, and > I frequently have to look at my notes to see who is who. It took me two > summers to determine whether it's António Carlos or Carlos António I call > for delivery of the gas cannisters. And then I had to spend another summer > getting straight whether I was to call António Carlos Melo Neves or António > Carlos Neves Melo! Finally, I have it right. > > Really, getting the names straight among the living is difficult enough; > searching through old records seems nearly impossible. But as many of us > have found out, the results are worth the effort! > > Tomás Leal > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > > -- Hugs and Blessings from Karen (Medeiros) Huffman in Paso Robles, CA USA Searching for Medeiros and Cabral in Sao Miguel, Santos, Silva and Costa in Terceira Acores. 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