Steve, The Manuel Rodrigues Quiteria and Sebastiana de Jesus is an erroneous entry by the priest . All other entries of the time period for their children show him as Manuel Rodrigues Silvestre. I show nine children with three obitos for
Manuel and Sebastianna from 1840 to 1858 in the Santa Cruz records. It may have been done to differentiate him from another Manuel Rodrugues Silvestre ( son of Silvestre Antonio Rodrigues and Maria de Jesus, and husband of Ana Vitoria) who was living in town at the same time. Eric Edgar On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Steve <woodrowme...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Eric and Rick for translation and information. > > It looks like there is indeed a link to Sebastiana and Quitéria, as I'm > seeking, although Quitéria is the grandmother: > > Maria (23 Dec 1854) legitimate daughter of > Manoel Rodrigues Silvestre > > Sebastiana de Jesus > > Paternal granddaughter of > Manuel Rodrigues Silvestre and > Quiteira de Jesus > > Maternal granddaughter of > Antonio Jose Pimentel Carneiro and > Anna Ignacia > > The evidence looks tantalizing if Marie called herself Marie do Céu upon > immigration, married in Massachusetts as Marie S Ceao, and her death > certificate informant remembered her maiden name as something like Guiterra. > > Sound like a stretch? > > ------------------------------ > > You asked what I had that leads to seeking Sebastiana and Quitéria > lineage. Here is the line of evidence: > > *Mary Pimentel Guiterra* > Birth Dec 1854 in Flores Island, Azores, Portugal > Death 20 Aug 1936 in Contra Costa County, California > "Guiterra" comes from one record, Calif Death Index. (= Quitéria ?) > Pimentel likely came from husband since initial "P" used only in later > records. > Birth date is from 1900 US Census (but gravestone has 1853); Calif Death > Record has age 82: 20 Aug 1936 - 23 Dec 1854 = 81 yrs, 7 mos, 28 d. > > married to > > *Mathew Pimental Renas* > Birth 19 Mar 1844 in Santa Cruz, Flores, Azores, Portugal > Death Mar 1891 in Brentwood, Contra Costa, California > = Matheus Pimentel Ramos (1873 immigration) = Mathew Minta (1880 US > Census only), thereafter = Mathew Pimental Renas > > *Immigration* > 6 Aug 1873 > Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts, USA > Boston Passenger & Crew Lists 1820-1943. From Flores aboard Kate > Williams: "Matheus Pimental Ramos, age 29 [1844], Male, occupation Mariner, > Azores, immigration USA, Steerage" with next line "Maria de Ceo, age 18 > [1855], Female, Azores, immigration USA, Steerage" > > Presently contemplating this *possible marriage record*: > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NW1D-71F > > Name: Matthews Manta Ramas > Event Type: Marriage (first for both) > Event Date: 23 Aug 1873 > Event Place: Weymouth, Massachusetts > Residence: Cohasset, Massachusetts > Occupation: Laborer > Gender: Male > Age: 28 > Birth Year (Est): 1845 > Birth Place: Western Isles > Father's Name: Manuel > Mother's Name: Mary > Spouse's Name: Maria S Ceao > Residence: Cohasset, Massachusetts > Spouse's Age: 18 > Spouse's Birth Year (Est.) 1855 > Birth Place: Western Isles > Spouse's Father's Name: Manuel S. > Spouse's Mother's Name: Sebastian > > …which is close to the 1873 immigration data, but I'm having difficulty > with Mathew and Marie traveling together unmarried, though marrying several > weeks later in MA. Perhaps they were chaperoned. > > Then I looked for Marie's possible parents, say Quitéria and Sebastiana, > in 'Casais das Flores e do Corvo': > > João de Medeiros da Silveira [23 anos, n. Relva, Ponta Delgada, São Miguel > , f.º de Francisco de Medeiros e de Jacinta Rosa] c. 1877.11.10 c. Maria da > Glória [31 anos, f.ª de Manuel Rodrigues Quitéria e de Sebastiana de Jesus]. > > However, there are no other listings involving Manuel Rodrigues Quitéria e > de Sebastiana de Jesus. > > > Steve > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the > right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my > membership." > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Azores Genealogy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores. > > > -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says "Join this group" and it will take you to "Edit my membership." --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genealogy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores.
